I'm not sick this time! I have 3 questions.
Thanks for all the help last time. Sorry for the rambling post, I'm still waiting for the brain to wake up all the way. Skip to the end for the point of the post!
After my fever broke I realized that I don't quite know what I need to construct an experience I like.
There are features in windows I like, features of Mac OS i like, and features of chrome and android i like. And there are the bits of the various distros I like but never could figure out the actual names of the packages... So my knowledge is swiss cheese...
I know I have a million options for a billion features. It's overwhelming without the problem of when names collide.
I know i need a bootloader, an init, a shell, a windowing system, desktop manager, desktop environment(s), compositor(still?), and window managers, but that's where I begin to breakdown. And where endeavour stops. My memory of Terminology is all jumbled up, and I truly need a hand.
I want to build a desktop that's bonkers. Feature rich and silly-futuristic. Problem is, I am still not sure how to build a put together packages and features of a modern os. I think I install the right thing often just to find it doesn't do what I thought or does something way extra and would break any DebUntu... And Because I'm incredibly confused, I break arch/Manjaro/endeavour.
I have 2 very simple questions and 1 hard one.
First is a softball... What are the essential differences between Manjaro and Endeavour?
Next is a long but simple one: I need help straightening things out... the names of things in other OSes and distros are all jumbled up at this point. I just want to build something with the features of a Mac to start.
Would you teach me some terminology, features, functions, names of software package that do [XYZ]? I want to build something that a "basic" computer user would understand how to use, and think "that's a neat feature" every so often. Not ready to be the rice master general yet
i like Manjaro so far, but I am bumping into the same problem there... I don't know what I don't know and don't know how to talk when i ask for help when i need it.
The hard question: Can I have some hand holding with endeavour?
Posted Aug 25, 2022, 2:13 PM UTC
Endeavour is basically Arch with Calamares and a few packages pre-installed. But Manjaro is not Arch. True, it uses the same package manager but that's it. The relationship between Manjaro and Arch is similar to the relationship between Ubuntu and Debian.
If I understood you correctly, yo want to customize your desktop to make it look like MacOS. But you also want to barrow some features from Windows or other operating systems. I would suggest you KDE Plasma.
Arch based distros (or vanilla Arch) is exactly what you want. But you gotta know that you have to spend some time to tweak it into the thing you desire.
The EOS community is very helpful and kind (unlike arch forums). Don't be afraid to ask questions in the forum or this subreddit.
I have grossly misunderstood the nature of Manjaro. How is it not arch though?
And i don't exactly want to build a custom Mac like UI, i need to straighten out the parts and software packages of something aesthetically pleasing, quick, stable... Mac is just prettier than windows and i like a dock.
I made a post a few days back but I was sick. But now I know i just have a huge gap in knowledge.
I agree with the OP you replied to. KDE Plasma is probably the direction you want to go.
The Manjaro/Arch to Ubuntu/Debian relationship from the previous reply is also pretty good.
Manjaro is “not arch” because Manjaro has their own repositories and thus dependencies. Just as Ubuntu has their own, but using the same package management software as the respective distributions they are based upon.
I think you are in the right place for eventually achieving your goal. Endeavour is a well maintained, easily installable, mostly base system which although doesn’t adhere to “the arch way” still adheres to KISS and still provides the end user the ability to build what they want.
Long story short. If you want what you were describing, and are reaching out for suggestions. I would go with Endeavour OS KDE Plasma, use some of the various guides/videos/tutorials/etc out there to learn some customization and then see what you come up with. If you got as far as making this post, I’m sure you won’t quit at the first hiccup.
Cheers to your Endeavour!