Today I learned that you can get the inbetweeners with sign language.
v.redd.it/uxbn3lt9t0k91Posted Aug 26, 2022, 8:46 AM UTC
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I've always wondered what the hand signal was for 'wanker'
I now realise other motorists aren't waving at me to say hello.
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Lmao
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BMW drivers think their car is so attractive, that the driver thinks passers by are signalling that they're going to have a wank later.
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I actually wondered about this, it's one of the few shows I've seen on All4 that actually has a sign language version.
What's the benefit of having a signer over subtitles? Is it for people who are deaf but struggle to read? It made sense back in the day when not everyone had a TV that could support subtitles. My hearing is fine but I use subtitles anyway, I'd have thought that having someone signing away in the corner would be far more distracting.
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I’m not deaf but my understanding is it is a whole different language with its own words and phases.
I would image it’s equivalent to watching a film in language you don’t understand. Would you prefer subtitles that are just direct translations (two languages don’t always translate well, can normally understand but the language doesn’t flow) or a voice over spoken in English?
It’s an interesting question and I hope we get some answers from people who know.
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You are correct, BSL has a whole different grammar structure. I'm not deaf myself but did a very basic course in BSL. I was told that deaf people who know how to sign rarely (if ever) read books, and often require a "translator" to help them complete written forms etc - learning vocalised/written language would be like learning a second language and potentially confusing.
Agree with you that I'd love someone closer to.the deaf community to tell me if I'm inaccurate / expand on this :)
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That seems mad to me. Being deaf already cuts off so many forms of entertainment and culture. Why would you not want to have something where you can do it the same as everyone else
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Its not like most deaf people are illiterate, but think of this this way: if someone is born deaf they are at a slight disadvantage with learning written words. When you hear a word like ‘cat’ spoken out loud you can learn the meaning and guess what the word sounds like written. The sounds correspond to the letters. If a deaf person knows a concept or idea in sign language they may not know the written version of the word as they’ve never heard it and have nothing to guess off of to spell or read it. If someone wasn’t born deaf its a bit different but thats the gist of it
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There is a strong deaf culture though with people who can sign with each other, and it is not like being able to sign means they cannot use English at all or cut them off from entertainment because of it. It is just preferred.
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The way the language is structured works best for visual hand signals. Its grammar and selection of words are designed to fit the unique needs and limitations of the language, so you end up with something that isn’t precisely the same as spoken English.
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As someone who is deaf and speaks. Yeah it's abit of a clusterfuck, I do question why it's like this
Someone like me who can hear with a cochlear implant are more likely to learn vocal speech and rely less on sign language hence why my English is decent.
Someone who can't/refuse to hear and rely on BSL are generally awful at grammar structure.
They will say " hello, your name what?" Rather than "hello, what's your name?"
I reckon it's to do with shortening sentences for ease of sign language but even that's not entirely the factor there. BSL is a very loose language that can be constantly changing and is always slightly different in different groups such as schools and communities.
Also fully deaf people who can't hear can't naturally learn grammar by listening to conversations around them so they resort to their own BSL groups, so their grammar skills never really change. And because they're such a tight knit community, they'll never bother learning.
I tend to rely on Spoken Sign language where i mostly speak but I "skim" BSL just by using basic signs so at least it's easier to pick up so that way I'm not overwriting my brain to eventually use broken grammar naturally due to bsl.
Though I do wish it's better and improved but it is the way it is. I get headaches reading my friends Facebook posts and I'm like "man, I'm think I'm having a aneurysm reading this"
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Thanks for this, good to know I wasn't talking bullshit (unlike some of your FB friends, it seems...) :D
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My only counter to this is that I used to date a deaf girl when I was 14, she had no issue with a English as a language, went to school normally (well, she had a specialist worker and some classes specific to her), she wasn't just hard of hearing, full-on deaf. When I'd call her I would have to use some teletype service where I spoke to a woman and then they'd type out what I was saying to her, and then relay her response to me. Never did ask her about signing, though.
I mean I'm not suggesting what you're saying is wrong, it seems plausible, but reading must be a pretty normal thing for most deaf people.
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When I’d call her I would have to use some teletype service where I spoke to a woman and then they’d type out what I was saying to her
“You want to do WHAT to her?! You dirty bastard!”
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Honestly, there was a bit of that...like, obviously not anything that extreme, but you're kids and then you'd say something like 'I can't wait to see you again' and the woman on the phone would go 'awww'.
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As I said it’s an interesting point/question. I don’t know as I’m not deaf but I can read and I would rather listen to something when watching a screen than have to read. I’m guessing someone doing sign language might be a deaf persons equivalent of listening?
I really hope someone comes on to educate us.
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Nice answer, thanks.
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I’ve done some sign language stuff at work - the thing to appreciate is that sign language is literally their first language, subtitles are useful of course, but the first language is sign language - obvious when looked at that way around
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BSL is a language in itself with its own structure, grammar and culture. It is the first language of many deaf people, so it sits separately to written English.
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Without early intervention many profoundly deaf people struggle to read actually. Reading is typically taught by having someone read to you and if you can't hear them. Profoundly deaf children whks families don't sign will usually read at least 2 years below their age level.
But TV subtitles are also not great. They're littered with spelling errors, sometimes they're auto generated and just plain wrong, Netflix at one point removed swearing from any subtitles. because subtitles show a whole line at one time they also often include both the joke and the punchline which can make comedies less fun, or ruin suspense in some shows.
BSL is its own language, with its own grammar, structure, and culture (its much more direct than British english). Many desf people have BSL as their first language, and spoke /written English as a second language. Its sometimes nice to have things presented in your first language, especially since the signer will be able to convey tone or voice etc which may be missed if you can't hear and are reading subtitles.
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Fair play to her, she didn't even crack a smile. A true pro.
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She's literally smiling and laughing.
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You have to see the man do the sign language for "he wants to suck your Carly's tits!" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaXz9S32zus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7AMwOcKjn4 - someone made a compilation too!
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Oh.. Oh no hahahaa
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Ha ha that is great!
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So apparently I’ve known how to say ‘wanker’ in sign language this whole time.
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Add 'bilingual' to your CV
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Is it wrong that I didn't need the sound and don't understand all sign language, but knew it was bus wankers
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Loved the Inbetweeners. Though the 2nd movie fell off a bit. Still good.
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I have a sister who's deaf, and she did a higher level of sign language in college and she taught that the 'wanker' sign is the sign for 16.
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I have a friend who is a professional sign language interpreter. She worked a corporate gig that had a Jimmy Carr standup set where she had to work out how to sign bukkake...
It's pretty much what you expect.
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I loosely recall in an old Top Gear episode the guest explained how to swear in sign language... they are hilarious.
Shame I couldn't find it any longer.
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I seem to remember I saw a sign language version of Inbetweeners late at night whilst drunk and almost died from laughter at the interpreter doing "crazy frog"
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Came across this while high one night. Was hilarious watching all the shit Jay comes out with translated into sign language.
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I was baked one night and the Inbetweeners was on with the sign language person. So I took photos of them mid rude gesture and laughed myself silly.
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Amazing! :D
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The best one is “Carly’s fanny on your face”
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Today I learned the sign language for bus wankers
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The desaturation effect of filming off the screen makes it look vaguely retro, like an exterior scene of Only Fools and Horses recorded on film instead of video.
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Love to see the one where Jay is talking about the two birds he had in the caravan
You mean the THREE birds that fucked off to the playboy mansion right?
To be fair one probably had to make a stop at the gynecologist after Jay's "toe-fucking"
Aye she got a horrible case of athlete's minge.
Mingelete.
Ah yeah three birds!! Forgot about the toe
"You appear to have a case of Athlete's vagina"
Hahaha!!
i want to see about the dutch girl who shat down his arm