In Regards to the Yautja Genus and its Species

General Discussion

For 23 years, the Predators, as far as I'm aware, were only shown to have one species, with racial differences (see: Jungle Hunter and City Hunter.) However, in 2010 with the movie Predators, we were introduced to Super Predators. The particular individuals shown were described to have a "blood feud" with the Crucified Predator's tribe. Once again, in 2022's Prey, yet another Yautja species has been introduced, this time 300 years prior in the timeline; they are the Feral Predators.

And of course, I must acknowledge NECA's lore for their Alpha Predator, a member of the Hish-qu-Ten, precursors to the Yautja as we know them. However, no attention will be paid to the individuals from the 2018 film The Predator, because fuck that movie.

As you may know, in the past, there were quite a few variants of humans. We are H. sapiens, though our ancestors lived alongside others of different species and subspecies, such as H. neanderthalensis. You likely also know that none of those exist anymore, due to many reasons: climate change, violence, interbreeding with H. sapiens, etc.

Therefore comes the main question of this post: why is it that Yautja, a people thousands of years older than humans, still have three separate species? Not only that, but their dominant culture revolves around hunting the most dangerous game, which would definitely lead to high death rates, so their genus would need extensively high birth rates to continue into the far future.

And so, using the films and expanded material, I've come to some crackhead theories educated guesses as to what the hell is going on with them.

Classics, Supers, and Ferals all evolved alongside one another, but due to Hish-qu-Ten migration after the rebellion against the Amengi, each came about in different hemispheres of their homeworld. Eventually they'd meet one another, and blood feuds would commence, leading to the majority of Supers to leave and colonize other planets. Over time, as their cultures grew, the species would become more accepting of one another, though it would be too late for the Ferals as they would soon go extinct in the early 20th century.

What do you think of this? Do you agree? Do you hate me? Please do discuss.

Posted Sep 27, 2022, 12:01 AM UTC

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Walach_NightbornCity Hunter•

Who says there are only those 3? There could be 100 more that we just haven’t seen

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Walach_NightbornCity Hunter•

How would that make less sense? A species that has access to space travel and visits planets across the galaxy having multiple sub-species variants is even more likely. Even on Earth alone birds, reptiles, amphibians, mammals, etc tend to have enormous variety. Just because humans have somehow combined into 1 genus doesn’t mean anything else ever does

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Boom_ExplosionOPCity Hunter•

You make a good point, but I'm operating on the idea of the before mentioned "blood feud" and of course the dominant hunting culture; the different species and subspecies would more than likely hunt each other to extinction.

However, you have opened my eyes on the concept of different Yautja evolving on different planets due to hundreds if not thousands of years of space travel. In such a case, I feel Yautja would only be more hostile towards one another, and the hunting culture may not persist in some variants.

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RelaxedPerroYautja King•

This isn’t a new theory. This has been debated and discussed for years. Only now we’ve been given clarification because of the feral predator, whom was stated to come from a dryer part of Yautja Prime.

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Boom_ExplosionOPCity Hunter•

We were given some clarification on a single species via a couple Twitter threads. There's still much to be explored.

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RedBaronBob•

Genocide of a separate genus doesn’t strike me as something they’d do in light of a planet wide occupation right after they found out they’re not alone in the universe. If the Alpha had to rise his entire people up to rebel, that’s probably the origin for the no killing other hunters rule. And given it’s an order to kill on sight, they take that fairly seriously.

Yeah they have exceptions, but we don’t know ultimately how the supers ended up on the preserve (conflicting accounts), and Fugitive was delivering a super weapon to an unknown third party.

As far as birth rates, they are successful, we’ve just seen the movies where they lost as villains tend to do. Nothing suggests Jungle Hunter couldn’t be 800 years old on the day he forgot to check for the second trap.

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Boom_ExplosionOPCity Hunter•

I brought up birth rates as, of course, they'd need to be high. Regardless if most survive their hunts (which is the likely case), they'd still need plenty of babies to make up for those who lost their lives.

When it comes to the 2010 Hunting Party, from what the film shows, it seems the Supers are capable of going to and from the preserve planet, and the Supers are likely the ones abducting the prey put there. And as I said before, I'm not gonna acknowledge the 2018 film.

I do not believe the Yautja would purposefully genocide separate species (the genus would encapsulated all Yautja), however, in-fighting would likely be a great contributor, if the blood feud isn't just between a couple tribes. Disease, climate change, and just not making enough children would all be factors in the extinction of Yautja species.

Sorry if I wasn't clear enough in my initial post.

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UHIpanther•

It is not unlikely for an advanced race to have multiple species within one genus as humans could be the exception to the rule in the galaxy not the example. Another intriguing possible and the more likely one is that the predators were captured and enslaved during a period of their history similar to when humans coexisted with other species of humans. Once the predators gained their freedom they had stolen the technology of their former master which made the likelihood of these species surviving higher. In fact the blood fued between the species could be an advanced form of a fued humans had with Neanderthals back in the day that resulted in their exitinction

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Vvaxus•

You’re combining multiple Predator references from different source materials and throwing it all in the same basket. I think that is why your question is so dynamic and will result in a multi layered answer that isn’t so straightforward. Are you familiar with the Warhammer 40k universe? Multiple armies, multiple people and alien species? Just apply that to your question (as the evidence presents itself in the material you reference) and there ya go.

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StarlitSphere•

I saw a video once that the Yautja species was once enslaved by another race of aliens which I think were called ‘Amengi’ and they were forced to fight for generations until they finally revolted and gained their freedom taking the Amengi’s technology for their own use ,and their culture forming into trophy hunting as a result of all those years of fighting for Amengi entertainment. (Not sure if anything in the video was canon at all ,but I think its a pretty solid origin for the Yautja species.)

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Vesperalsky134•

Thats the backstory to the alpha predator figure neca made, so ig its cannon if u count the history and backstory of the neca predators but if not then its just a cool atory for a cool figure

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Picard37Berserker Predator•

Why can't there be variety to the Predators in the same way that we have variety to monkeys and lizards on Earth?

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Boom_ExplosionOPCity Hunter•

Because monkeys and lizards aren't sapient.

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Picard37Berserker Predator•

Well, I know that. I was just trying to think creatively the way a movie producer might.

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Vesperalsky134•

Eh chimp species are getting up there on intelligence, weve seen proof of religious type actvities in some ape groups and other signs of extreme intrlligence, may not be on a human level but they are smart

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kaijuking87•

They don’t need to be different “species” it’s much more likely they are of the same species but different races with in that species. Just like how humans have a wide range of variation in physical appearances the yautja do as well. We have northern Europeans, Africans, Asians, native Americans, Pacific Islanders… so on and so on. All of these are Homo sapiens but they are all quite different in physical appearance. This could easily be the case with yautja and seems the most likely and simplest explanation.

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Boom_ExplosionOPCity Hunter•

I disagree. While modern humans do vary in appearance due to race, the on screen Yautja variations look so different from one another, it's hard to believe they're just different races, personally. Take the skulls of Italian, Nigerian, and Chinese males, and they'd all look fairly similar. Do the same for the Classic, Super, and Feral Predators, and the differences would really shine.

To paraphrase Predators (2010), they're like dogs and wolves; they're similar, but ultimately different.

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kaijuking87•

The dogs to wolves comment helps my case. Dogs whether your looking at a poodle, mastiff, or chihuahua all descended from wolves.. they’re all the same species. It just goes to show you what selective breeding is capable of and that could be the case for the differences in yautja. Matter of fact selective breeding even seems like something they might do to make themselves the best possible hunters and some clans or races chose different traits and that’s why hey look so different.

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TomorrowOnly7033•

My question is why does everyone hate the 2018 film? I'm not saying I love it. But I genuinely don't see major problems. Please remember I'm not a movie critique. I don't look for problems I just try my best to enjoy whatever movie I'm watching. So please don't be mean about this. I'm just wondering why everyone else hates the movie.

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