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StMongo

This is a university-not a day care; Fuck off.

RANT

I work at a university and because it’s cold outside, I’m forced to take my lunch inside. I’m currently sat next to a window, and some way-too-young mother is right outside letting her crotch demon scream at the top of its lungs. Did I mention I’m 2 fucking floors up? I’m trying to eat and read in peace. This is not a day care or a goddamn playground. Get your fucking welfare teenage mom ass outta here!

(Oh good, now they’ve come into the building to scream.)

Posted Sep 27, 2022, 4:34 PM UTC

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CoryPowerCat77•

For real. I’m in University now as a student and the parents (who are students) always bring their kids to events and ruins everything. Or let their kids run around unattended.

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SerpentWrites•

Yep. Like, it's a bit too late to decide to have aspirations now, isn't it? After you've burdened yourself with a brat.

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oneeyecheeselordno kids, the bloodline ends with me.•

There’s always room to have aspirations and improve, so it’s never too late. The problem is that they don’t have the brain cells to realize other people have aspirations and goals and will be distracted by their brat. They don’t have the brain cells to find daycare or a babysitter.

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Queen_CheetahI exclusively breed Pokémon... and bad ideas!•

They don’t have the brain cells to find daycare or a babysitter.

I mean, if you cannot secure proper care for the child that you brought into the world; I'm not sure there's any amount of educational discourse that can help you. I'm all for people improving themselves, but not if they think that means others around them should suffer for their actions.

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oneeyecheeselordno kids, the bloodline ends with me.•

It could also be the issue of no money to hire a babysitter or the issue of the people that promised to help her reneging on their promises as well. (Examples being a significant other who said they’d take care of the baby but clearly isn’t helping at all) Does this mean that the woman should give up improving her situation and trying to better herself? No. Bettering herself opens up the door for a better life for them both.

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bagsfaxe90•

This is the wrong attitude, it’s never too late to better yourself and follow your dreams, if more parents did they’d be better parents for it and less resentful; also it’s so much more admirable than for them to give up and leech off of others.

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donteattheshrimp•

It's one thing trying to better yourself as a young mom. I'm all for that! I personally wouldn't even mind seeing a child in a University setting. But I sure as hell draw a line when that child is being loud and disruptive. That has no business at a University. If the kid can't sit still and be quiet, then take it away. University is basically one giant library, people are studying quietly everywhere.

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bagsfaxe90•

Yeah I agree with that the parent should make the kid pipe down, I was just talking in general not about this parent in particular.

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People with children are still people. They're allowed to exist outside of being a parent. The actual problem here is the entitlement. When parents think that they're entitled to disrupting others because they don't want to parent their child or get a babysitter, it's a problem.

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QueenBee3000•

Some people still think they can have it all.

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Zel_lost_it•

find some staff member to deal with this, its a school and she is allowing her kids to be a disturbance!

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Sweaterpillows83•

Not sure what being on welfare has anything to do with ....

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What_if_ded•

Yeah, that rubbed me wrong

You can be annoyed at someone's lack of responsibility/manners without bagging on poor people

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CoryPowerCat77•

Welfare is usually used by teen moms because they don’t have money.

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SerpentWrites•

If you don't have money then why would you decide to have a baby?

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CoryPowerCat77•

I don’t know. Lack of sex Ed?

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StMongoOP•

How about irresponsibility?

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Sweaterpillows83•

So we're assuming she's on welfare?

And we're assuming that if anyone behaves poorly in public that they must be on government assistance?

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I mean it’s probably not 100% solid logic, but as an assumption it’s a good starting point for some inductive reasoning

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StMongoOP•

Maybe she wasn’t on welfare- that’s hardly the fucking point. You don’t let your spawn scream and freak out in public and just fucking stand there and watch. I don’t give a shit about her situation, but she was clearly young and not taking any responsibility for the screaming thing she brought with her to bother people who were trying to work.

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Sweaterpillows83•

I get it. I'd be irritated too. It's just completely classist to just assume that someone behaving poorly is on welfare. Or to look down on someone for being of a lower income level.

Is she a shit parent? Sure. But income has nothing to do with it.

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astuart9•

I think you need some perspective. Take a step back it’s not that deep. You matter no more no less than that “welfare looking” mother who’s probably trying her best and just needed a moment. Your lunch is not the end of the world.

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Welfare has nothing to do with being irresponsible, it's just that some irresponsible people are on welfare. But the two aren't related at all. You shouldn't assume that she's on welfare just because she's irresponsible, it just makes you look judgemental.

Also, some people need government assistance to live due to disability or unfortunate financial circumstance— or both. So on top of looking judgemental, you look classist and ableist. Welfare isn't a bad thing, and using it as an insult is honestly pretty disrespectful.

EDIT: You claim you've been on welfare too, so you should know better. And it doesn't matter if it's not the point of your post, it was a shitty comment and deserves to be called out.

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AngeeKeekee•

Not sure what welfare has to do with crotch spawn but you do you.

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ClashBandicootie•

yeah I found that part of the post unecessary

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brittles901•

Damn. Just say you hate poor people.

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CoryPowerCat77•

Why is this post not okay but the others bashing teen moms is okay?

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brittles901•

I couldn't tell you. I personally don't bash teen moms.

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StMongoOP•

Do you know how poor I am? I’ve been on welfare myself. I don’t give a shit if you’re poor, but if you’re on welfare (which is not even the point of this whole fucking rant), wtf are you popping out a kid for?

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brittles901•

But how do you know she's on welfare? You're making assumptions with zero facts. There was no need to be disparaging to people on welfare and lumping them in with her negligent behavior.

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sidroso•

Projection? They claim they were on welfare too. Perhaps OP was negligent and irresponsible to end up there, so when they see that behavior, they assume that person is on welfare too.

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brittles901•

That's definitely a possibility. If that's the case, they should know better than to stereotype people and play into it.

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lilyofhedonism•

Being a teen mom is not something people do just for the sake of fun. She might have "popped out a kid" because she had no other choice (contraception/abortion was not available, abusive relationship/family etc). Now she's probably trying to make the best out from her situation. She may not be lucky enough to find daycare for the kid since they are usually pretty expensive. Yeah, the kid's gonna cry, that's what babies do, have you tried to calm one down? It's pretty hard. Also, using 'welfare' and 'teen mom' as an insult is very classist and insensitive of you.

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familyguystan420•

i think op was rude and their remarks were classist and unnecessary but i don’t agree that the mom should be able to sit inside with their screaming kid just because there’s no place else to go. maybe the mom should let her professors know of her situation and go home with her child and hopefully they’ll give her an extension on her assignments. making everybody in the study lounge suffer because of her personal issue is inconsiderate. other people pay good money for the school’s resources and are trying to better themselves too. they shouldn’t have to be distracted by somebody else’s responsibility.

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BulletRazor•

welfare teenage mom ass outta here!

What the fuck is wrong with you? I’m childfree af but I’m not an asshole. This is like that gross welfare queen assumption racists make. You can not like what’s going on without insinuating that there’s something shameful about being on welfare. Poverty is not shameful.

Shame on you actually.

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ApplePaintedRed•

I was kinda looking for this.

I completely understand OP's frustrations, I often have them myself, but they are irrelevant to the mother being "too young" and whether or not she receives government assistance. I'd also hesitate to claim that the mother was being willfully ignorant -- maybe she'd tried everything, maybe she was preoccupied. I'm not sure how OP would know considering they were two floors up.

Point is, we dont need to be assholes here.

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kae-97•

This post is making me second guess this sub. I don't like kids, but I'm not gonna hate on a young mother trying to do better for herself and her child.

Y'all nasty.

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CinderLotus•

Don’t lump all of us in with this gross person. This is not the norm for this sub at all.

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kae-97•

Noted. I'll just comb through the bad ones lolol

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CinderLotus•

Absolutely. Don’t let this person ruin it for you. This sub is about disliking bad parents and misbehaved children as well as discussing aspects of the childfree lifestyle. It’s a place for letting out frustrations about social situations, family pressure, sterilization, frustrating public interactions, and so on, but it’s definitely not about making broad, classist assumptions about others based on the fact that they have a kid. We appreciate good parents here even if we don’t want to be one ourselves.

Should the mother in the post have done something about her kid making a massive disruption in a public learning space? Yes. Does that mean she’s on welfare or that even being on welfare is something to be ashamed of? No. OP made those assumptions on their own and it reflects on them worse than this woman’s poor parenting in this particular instance. OP is the real villain of this post.

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StMongoOP•

Bwahahaha!

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turnup_for_what•

I'm not either, but a university building where study and work take place is not a place for screaming kids. Take that shit outside.

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kae-97•

I mean if it's cold enough that OP has to eat inside, why do you think the mother can just take her child outside?

I'm not saying it's ideal, but given the lack of affordable childcare, it makes sense. Where else is she supposed to bring her child if it's cold, no daycare is available, and the mother also has her own classes?

It's reasonable to be frustrated about the situation, but that doesn't mean it's totally the mother's fault. And OP was still making hella derogatory comments that had nothing to do with the situation.

I stand by my first statement. Nasty.

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turnup_for_what•

I don't know, but to be frank, that is the mother's problem to deal with. People are paying good money to be there and it shouldn't be disrupted by screaming children or adults. There's a reason people don't just bring their kids to work and school.

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familyguystan420•

exactly, thank you. i think op was rude and their remarks were classist and unnecessary but i don’t agree that the mom should be able to sit inside with their screaming kid just because there’s no place else to go. maybe the mom should let her professors know of her situation and go home with her child and hopefully they’ll give her an extension on her assignments. making everybody in the study lounge suffer because of her personal issue is inconsiderate.

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astuart9•

She could’ve just said that. This post was incredibly rude, I’m sure that mother is going through it and try the best she can. I don’t like kids either but some perspective is needed

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What_if_ded•

The top comments are implying that parents should never go to college, but, like, don't we want parents to be educated and well payed so we don't end up with more kids in some kind of system?

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oneeyecheeselordno kids, the bloodline ends with me.•

Posts like this make my blood boil. I get you don’t like kids, I get you need to rant but don’t make assumptions about them being a teen mom or being on welfare. For all we know they were sexually assaulted and were made to keep the baby (happens more often than you think). I still can’t wrap my head around how OP can magically tell that the mom is on welfare.

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redjessa•

I was just thinking the same thing when reading the welfare line. I know not all people in this sub write things like that and often I can really relate to the sentiments here, but that was just uncalled for.

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kae-97•

I literally joined the sub this morning, so I was like "wow this is WHACK"

I'm really glad to know it isn't everyone, and hopefully not the majority, who feel this way.

Like we can hate kids. We can hate how people mindlessly have kids. We can hate how people pressure us to have kids. We can want child free spaces.

But hating on people trying to better themselves? Hating on people experiencing poverty and lack of childcare? Thanks, but no thanks. I have enough conservative cousins if I wanted to listen to that bullshit.

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redjessa•

Yes, agreed. I've seen a few posts or comments here and there that I don't agree with. I have very little patience for children and obnoxious parents, but still... sometimes it's a little harsh.

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AdTraditional3653•

No honestly. That was rude as hell.

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m100896•

I hope you learn some perspective about making comments that are judgmental like this. It's completely understandable to be irritated with a screaming child but to sit there and assume she's too young and on welfare. This is classist and entitled behavior. Do better.

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CoryPowerCat77•

People sometimes have kids intentionally to live off them.

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StMongoOP•

Bite me. I love how everyone here is all ew pregnancy is disgusting when it’s a literal biological function but I can’t have an opinion on some shitty teenage mom all of a sudden?

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familyguystan420•

pregnancy is objectively disgusting, your vagina can rip all the way down to your anus. sit there and tell me that isn’t disgusting 🤮 and assuming a young mom is on welfare is classist and weird. i know plenty of teen moms/moms who had kids as teens who aren’t on welfare. that’s a bold assumption to make just because she’s young ://

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pregnancy is objectively disgusting, your vagina can rip all the way down to your anus. sit there and tell me that isn’t disgusting 🤮

Right? For a biological function, it sure doesn't function very well...

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StMongoOP•

Of course it’s gross, but so is the majority of all our functions.

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sidroso•

It's not the opinion of the mom, you reeled us in with that one. You lost us at the welfare comment.

But it seems like you are unapologetic about being classist. I guess you got that going for you.

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StMongoOP•

Take your fucking sanctimonious judgement of me, demanding that I do better, and look in the mirror. If you don’t like what I choose to bitch about, downvote me and move on.

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fweshcatz•

Ah yes, shame a young woman with a child by implying she's nothing more than a teen mom on welfare. Jfc. I'm active on this sub, but posts like this are just rude.

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SerpentWrites•

You're right. We shouldn't disparage welfare recipients by likening them to breeders.

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626bluestitch•

Oh man I remember when I was a tutor (networking). Somebody brought their kid into the computer lab played videos at the highest volume for the kid (peppa pig I think? It was super annoying) but the kid wasn't even watching he was too busy running around the computers screaming. I had to ask him to turn the video down and not let the kid run around because students were trying to study for finals that were starting the day after this. I wouldn't have cared if he logged into a computer and let the kid play games or something with no volume.

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spacedpear•

I can understand not wanting kids of your own, as yeah gross little demons and the process is all around the worst. And oh my god I would also be extremely pissed if some loud little brat was interrupting my work esp since even the smallest bit of noise can be the most excruciating distraction for me.

I may be misinterpreting this, as this is obviously a rant and you just wanted to get some things off you chest, since that situation sounds like just the worst, but...you don't perhaps think less of people who end up getting pregnant and having a spawn at a young age, do you? Or like anyone's having a kid, as long as they're not pressuring you/disturbing your boundaries and brushing it off.

Like, it was just a case of someone obviously not respecting the boundaries of others in a semi-public space/not having the capacity to handle/discipline their kid, right? Like, F them for letting their clump of cells run rampant in an area where others are trying to work, not F them for being young and "deciding" to have a kid/"deciding" to have a kid in general, right?

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SerpentWrites•

We can judge people for having children and we should. It's a selfish decision, especially with the threat of climate change. Sure, you can raise a kid to be eco-friendly, but that's like installing solar panels after you've decided to blast heating and air conditioning at the same time. It will never be as good as simply not doing the stupid thing in the first place.

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spacedpear•

Well considering how in many societies the birther doesn't have the final say on whether or not to bring life into the world, blaming them for an action they may not have even been on board with just seems kind of...

And even if they "technically" could have avoided pregnancy, the idea of reproduction as the most natural amazing thing and that youre a freak if you possibly dont want to fuck up your/others'/the world's life by bringing another human into the world in such an overbearing wide-spread concept that you're constantly reminded of (as we may all kind of sympathize with) that doing anything but following the status-quo (despite the negatives, and possible personal thoughts on it) is just not something some people are going to do.

Like not everyone is thinking about and listing the pros/cons of this major decision. They just do what's been told is expected of them by their family/community, who coo on about chilren, parenthood, and life, so as to avoid being ostracized. And even if they may want otherwise, they may be forced to go through with it.

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