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Not_Smrt

My wife wanted a decent cooking knife for her birthday. Now what do I need to do to keep that knife in good shape?

The knife in question is a Wusthof Clasaic Ikon Santoku.

We have a cheap honing steel but arent really sure how often we should use this or how often we should need to get the blade sharpened? Do i need to oil the blade when not in use? We're both kinda dumb and lazy and kinda want to know whats needed to keep this knife edge sharp without wasting a huge amount of effort.

Thanks for any advice you can give.

Posted Oct 1, 2022, 9:41 AM UTC

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moonshinedegreaser•

Handwash and immediately dry and use a honing rod on it before you use it

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berenjena775•

This is the way.

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radiocow1•

Never put it in the dishwasher!

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the_mechannic•

Honing helps. I hold the rod upright again the counter and go slow. It's not about being fancy or flashy. Also I should need to say this but,use a GODDAM CUTTING BOARD. I've seen several times people try cutting things on the bare counter or cookie sheet

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Rhudran•

This has saved my knife collection. I was sharpening my knives too frequently when I should've been honing. I only realized after polishing about a fifth off of my favorite paring knife.

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the_mechannic•

You almost always just need a hone. Hone straighten instead of actually removing. I also didn't get super fancy with my knifes. I just have a blue diamond chef knife from Walmart. I think it was only 30 and does great. All the blue diamond cookware is great

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MikeLemon•

From u/southsamurai -

Olay, as usual there's old, outdated info floating around.

Honing steels, butcher's steels, or knife steels, no matter what you call them, are used to "refresh" an edge.

For a long time, people thought that it was straightening the edge out, or something similar. But, we have these wonderful devices called microscopes, and people finally got around to using them to improve sharpening.

What all hones do is remove small amounts of steel from the very finest part of the edge, sometimes called the apex. The only real difference is how efficiently they do so, and if they do any harm along the way.

In the case of metal honing steels, they tend to be safe for most knives. But when used on high hardness knives, like the kind found on high dollar japanese knives, they can cause chipping.

But they'll work. They do the job slower, and with less change in sharpness,, than ceramic or diamond honing rods. In most cases, the cheapest ceramic rod is going to do a better job than the fanciest steel honing rod.

But all of them are used by drawing the knife, from heel to tip, down the length of the blade, at a slightly higher angle than the knife originally has. Three or four passes is all you'll usually need, even with the kind you have. They are typically used as needed, meaning that when you notice your knife isn't cutting the mustard, so to speak.

Now, how often to sharpen depends on the knives, how often you use them, and how you use them. A meh quality knife may need actual sharpening, as in being ground on stones in a controlled manner, as often as weekly under frequent use in a home kitchen. Really good knives, with a low frequency of use can go years.

Sharpening, be it freehand on whetstones, or using a guided rod system (like the famous Lansky kit, though there are other and better options now), or even doing something horrible like using a grinder or pull through unsharpener; that's more conjugated complicated than a single comment can cover from top to bottom. Luckily, the single best online beginner's resource is right here on reddit: r/sharpening. Their wiki has a superb beginner section. No matter how much effort you want to put in, you can learn to sharpen a knife to acceptable levels in very minimal time. You do have to pay more for less effort, but even then you havr options for any budget range.

If you are interested, there's other sites that cover what happens on a microscopic level to steel when sharpened with various materials and techniques. But this comment is already more than most people care to read at once, so I won't bother unless you do care.

Edit: for them that doubt the info about honing steels, there is good data with visuals out there.

Original comment with working links (URL seems odd, hope it works)- https://old.reddit.com/r/Cooking/comments/upuyor/deleted_by_user/i8ncn3f/

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Sparrow2go•

the Science of Sharp is by far the most comprehensive research I’ve seen on the subject and anything else regarding edged steel. Highly recommended for anyone interested in a deep dive into sharpness.

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Rhudran•

Oh, another thing. I have damaged knives by using them to crush garlic. There's no need to actually use the side of your blade if you're worried about that sort of thing. I bent one blade and managed to shatter the (cheap plastic) handle of a knife that I got second hand. I still do it occasionally, of course, but I make sure I'm not going to bend or jarr it when I do.

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the_mechannic•

I definitely do it like that. Not a hard hit though. Theres quite a few tricks to garlic. Including shaking it in a jar

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pickles55•

You don't need to use a hammer, you can just press with your other hand haha

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northman46•

Isn't that knife stainless steel? No need to oil. Use the steel. Either buy a chefs choice sharpener or get knives professionally sharpened periodically

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masterofmaracas•
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CeeGeeWhy•

Hand wash and dry immediately after use.

I keep my good blades in their own blade covers in the drawer, but if you have a knife block or a magnetic strip, this would be unnecessary.

I have a ceramic honing rod to maintain the edge between sharpening. Think of it like a comb (honing) vs a haircut (sharpening).

Don’t ever use it to open jars, split apart frozen stuff stuck together, or try and cut through bones. Use it to cut through joints if you need to break down parts. Don’t use glass or steel cutting boards. Wood or plastic are better.

Knifewear is a shop in Calgary that has a lot of informational videos in youtube about knives.

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frozendumpsterfire•

Second vote for Knifewear's YouTube channel

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Low-Beyond-5335•

Spend another $60-$150 on a good quality steel, steel away from your hand (no cuts if you slip) keep the same angle on both sides. Go slow and get it right. Speed will come later

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RowanRally•

I have that knife and it’s incredible. I use a whetstone and a honing rod. Please keep all other sharpeners away, they will eat the steel

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pickles55•

A whetstone is the best but if you guys aren't interested in learning how to use one of those the next best thing is a guided sharpening tool like the Spyderco sharpmaker. It uses ceramic rods held at an angle in a block that makes it very easy to sharpen both sides of the blade at the proper angle. Lansky has a cheaper product called the turn box that works the same way. The pull through sharpeners are extremely aggressive and inconsistent. They will make your knife feel sharp but slowly wreck the edge. People like them because they're really easy to use but they're bad for your knife.

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piroskamcs•

Use a steel every now and then. Thats enough.

rarely if the steel hasn't sharpened it you'd need to use a stone...but the steel keeps the edge aligned for along long time.

Don't put it in the dishwasher, it blunts them.

Don't throw it loose in a drawer with other stuff, use a knife block or a cardboard tube so it doesn't bang the edge around.

Thats it.

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WanderingTrader11•

A knife as a gift... Have her give you a penny in return. It’s bad luck.

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