I swear there are always like two or thread posts complaining about it.
There are tons of books and web series. If it isn't for you, fine, but good God just stop reading it then.
Posted Oct 2, 2022, 4:57 AM UTC
All that I have seen was some grumbling on the audible reviews in book four or five about some anti-American comments. I didn’t think it was all that bad though. I am still listening to the series and it’s great!
I I know right, I find the reaction of some people to that hilarious.
I'm American and thought his commentary was hilarious tbh. It's like lacking self awareness that we do the same thing to other countries all the time.
Like, oh no, someone memed my country. Get the pitchforks!
Yeah, I had a nice guffaw at ,”Americans like killing brown people.” It’s funny to see how others perceive us.
I mean ..it's true 🥴😂
I thought the "anti american" was fucking hilarious and spot on.
Yes, we should just never discuss books at all!
People critique for the same reason they compliment. Because we like to discuss things.
It's great how you completely ignore what was said
There’s tons of threads obsessing over it, and a decent amount critiquing it. Because people like to talk about stuff. You don’t like those threads? Take your own advice and don’t read them.
Every time I see that acronym, in my head I read it as How I Met Your Mother. Every single time.
... the crossover i never knew i wanted
I know right? Someone needs to let Barney loose in the Sea of Storms!
Or any excuse to let NPH cameo in one of the audiobooks, it would be wild hearing him and Heath duet a few scenes.
Was just waiting for someone to comment "something we didn't want but something we needed." Lmfao.
Same!
What is HWFM?
He who fights with monsters
Sometimes we just need that good good Jason chuuni dark lord energy
You know, if you have to 100% enjoy a work of art and will not allow any from of critique you are not a fan but a toxic fanboy.
I am a fan of the story and the writing. If everything else is shit I damn sure will complain that I have to shit to get to the good parts.
As a writer, I can tell you no one aims for 100% 5 star reviews. If you have this, people get suspicious and think you have paid reviews.
Even the best works of art are hated by some. There is no way to please everyone, nor should you necessarily even try to.
That's the answer. We all have our own likes and dislikes. Everyone has different opinions
That misses the point I was making. Also 100% 5 star review are not even on the table and not part of the discussion. I really hope that your writing is not as incoherent has your replies.
My dude, I just reread this multiple times and I'm confused about how you got offended, or what you couldn't understand. If you're angry and looking to start fights with random people, that's what Facebook is for, not Reddit.
I am wondering why you think that I am offended and the only conclusion must be that you are projecting.
I gave up halfway through the first book because I just couldn't stand how awful and obnoxious the main character was (just my personal opinion, no need to let it ruin your personal enjoyment). I am not angry about it. I don't dwell on it. I just move on to the next series to try (which turned out to be the super fun Dungeon Crawler Carl). But I still share this opinion from time to time. No harm in it.
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I’m wondering what it is that makes some people see Jason as so obnoxious. Serious question, what are your general feelings towards people in positions of authority, like a police officer, sheriff? How about the rich and powerful like Musk or Bezos?
I'm no big fan of law enforcement or billionaires, so I'm not entirely unsympathetic to Jason. But he's definitely obnoxious. Even the author clearly thinks so, since every other character comments on it. It's not what he says, its the fact that he's so self-important about it, and exhibits no self-control even when going off about it is actively against his best interests. That's okay, it's his character flaw; but it's still a lot.
Interesting, thanks for the feedback. It’s still weird how he is such a polarizing character. I wonder if most others that dislike him so strongly have similar reasons.
I didn't even get far enough to see him in a position of authority. I just hate the character. The guy wakes up naked in a maze with no idea how he got there with monsters and magic and he barely shrugs. He thinks he's crazy for half a second and then he moves on. And he's sarcastic, obnoxious, constantly cracking smart @$$ jokes, etc. No human being would react that way. All the insanity, magic, and danger just seems to roll off his back. Even when caged up with his life being threatened he still barely panics and is making jokes. No human being would behave this way. Now I understand it's part of the genre. And lots of other characters are also unreasonably resilient (Defiance of the Fall, Dungeon Crawler Carl, etc.) But at least those characters are not wise cracking wise every 3 seconds and actually somewhat behave like reasonable human beings, even if it is blunted due to the conventionsnof the genre (no one wants to read a litrpg or system apocalypse book dealing with legitmate human trauma). There's a happy middle ground between a character acting believably and still being awesome enough for wish fulfillment versus Jason. I don't know, he just truly rubbed me the wrong way. Everything about Jason made me want to punch the guy, lol. Plus in the Audiobook version the narrator makes Jason's voice so whiney and grating. Just my two cents. No big deal really. Plenty of other things to read. I know this conversation seems to rile up a lot of people for whatever reason. But I would encourage anyone who reads this who gets a bit angry about it, to just not sweat it. Yeah, I hated Jason and he ruined the entire series for me before I even finished the first book. But if you enjoyed it, and if you like Jason, that's awesome. More power to you. It seems lots of people do. Lots of people. So no reason to get incensed by it.
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Completely agree, plus he's that hypocrite trope where he hates people in power, but he's the one in power and acts all self righteous, make me wanna choke out the little bastard
I did the same thing and returned the audio book for a refund. Just not a character I liked at all. Just my opinion, don’t let it hurt your enjoyment of the series if you enjoy the series.
I haven't gotten to the new one yet, but I was excited for it. Are people saying it's bad?
No it's not bad. I've only gone the Audible road on it but I've definitely enjoyed it. I'll second the opinion that if it doesn't work for you find something else. There are thousands of other options.
it is bad compared to 1-3 if you enjoy 4-6 you will enjoy 7. Be warned the reunion will be really short and mostly off screen.
This disappoints me a lot, I was looking forward to it greatly.
For what it's worth, I wasn't a big fan of book 5 or 6, but did enjoy 7 and thought it was a good return to what I liked about 1-3. I also thought the reunions were fine
No, it's perfectly fine. To be fair I've been reading the series online via Patreon and so am much farther ahead but I've enjoyed it the whole way through.
I just started number 7 on audiobook today. So far it's fine, a little more pop culture silly than previous books maybe....but still one of my favorite series. I am kind of new to litrpg but genre aside, still one of my favorites.
I can imagine that a good chunk of the complaints are about the MC (and by extend) the author are quite vocal about touchy social topics.
It is one of my favorite series, but in the past a author would write a book give it to a publisher. Than rewrite it until the publisher said now we publish. Do to royal road and such a lot of books come out in their first state which i would argue is hurting especially the longer series of books cause they shoot their fire to early.
But as said i love the magic system, the combat scenes and the characters, even the villains, just the story i find a bit underwhelming. It feels like palying skirim. You do a lot of fun random side quests but the main story is nothing on the same level ss the rest of the game?
Fantastic username good sir
Its from dresden file though and not final fantasy or sword art online, if you know the name from there.😅
I will read it to the end cause i want to know how it ends, but as time passes by, I'm like the guy in the meme "come on stop it's already dead". The author is milking the fame of the novel to the best of his possibilities (rightly so) but the novel is already past his prime and in a descending unstoppable spiral.
Book 7 made the best sellers list when it first came out. Most long series get fewer readers for each novel, HWFWM is keeping most readers and adding more, that can't wait to get the next book in the series when it comes out.
That’s probably where a disconnect comes in. It’s less a series of novels, and more a web serial. Web serials can go on like the Simpsons, and I doubt this one is ending anytime soon due to the popularity.
Eh, I’ve read quite a bit about the author’s plans, and while I agree that many series can go on like this and meander, HWFWM most definitely is following a tight plan. Sorry to hear you’re not liking how it’s going though.
I’m good with it for the most part, although I just haven’t jumped back in. I may have some… frustration with the tragic hero complexing and people commenting on said complex (I’m not edgy I swear) where I am right now, but it’s still pretty interesting.
The author chose to specifically take shots at specific groups of people. Some would call it racist, others turn a blind eye and say he's speaking truth, apparently. Anyway, the author opened fire and the negative comments you see are the return fire. That's how it goes.
What happened? I've not heard this before
He mentioned America's penchant for "liberating" oil rich nations. Also included the death camps in China for the Muslim minority.
those are things that happened, the Rohingya people are in dire threat because of the Chinese govt.
would anyone ever argue about America and its relationship to oil?
I would counter, why would anyone think its relevant to include in a book about a fantasy world where the MC leaves Earth? It's just kind of bizarre, like the author is unable to separate politics from anything, or like a coworker who insists on talking about Trump during every lunch break. It's not like the MC has just one soapbox, it is frequent...
Because some people just don't like the series.
It's always about whether or not people like the series or characters in it. The MC can be a bit much but that just means it's not someone's cup of tea. Not everyone will like every story, juat the way it is. I have problems getting into Noobtown but others really enjoy it, all about if the reader enjoys what they're reading.
I also couldn't get in to Noobtown, and would welcome someone to convince me to power through
I tried it, put it down, came back another time and read a few books in the series...rinse and repeat. The humour is....different, not always enjoyable. Currently left off at Dungeon of the Noob or whatever it's called and reading Rise of the Cheat Potion Maker, which I am enjoying. I have enjoyment for OP MC's though.
You mean there are always two or three threads talking about how great the series is or talking about something in the series. Or it is brought up when someone asks for a recommendation even if it isn't related in any way.
Hell, there is a single post complaining about it in the last 2 months while there have been multiple talking about how they like it.
The vast majority of new stories disappear very quickly, you see one post with I love the cover comments and you never hear from them again. If someone does leave a negative comment, they are called trolls.
But Jason is not your typical MC, and the author is not American, all of which gets some people angry.
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I reckon for the same reason, people complain about any other thing. Something they love changes into a direction, people dont like. (For me, this is Star Trek ... i swear, Discovery, Lower Decks and Picard are so mind bogglingly bad, i cant fathom how they get renewed for seasons on end, yet here we are.)
And since HWFWM appears on nearly every recommendations list, more people are reading this. And with a higher number of recipients always comes a higher number of vocal people.
If their opinions hold any value is only secondary, because ANY media would be a lot less interesting without the discourse. (And of course, this is also debateble. :))
Lower Decks
This is probably my favorite Star Trek yet, followed by The Oroville, which isn't even supposed to be Trek.
The Star Trek comments exemplify the disparity in what people like. I really like all those series, I’m not mad, however, when someone doesn’t like it. Same goes with HWFWM, if you have a criticism that’s fine by me, but please explain what you don’t like so that others that feel the same way can avoid it. I often explain exactly why I like the series I love, so others that like those same things can find it and enjoy it too.
It's a popular series, inevitably it's going to come up.
Don't hold up a double standard, I doubt you'd complain if there were compliments/positive leaning discussions.
As I said it's a popular series, Shirtaloon doesn't need anyone to come to his defense. The occasional post critiquing or complaining won't tank his sales.
Complaining about the threads isn't going to fix anything. You are just bringing more attention to it and encouraging arguments. There isn't a winner here.
It's a subreddit about litrpgs. If people want to have a discussion about something they don't like about the book they can. Take your own advice and skip over them if you don't like it.
We complain because of posts like these. At least, I complain because seeing 5 posts a day about “how so freaking cool Jason is!!!” And “what do YOU think the ending will be ??” Is super annoying. I can’t stand seeing this many people talk about a series that’s a 7/10 at best. MAKE A SUBREDDIT FOR HWFWM AND SHUT UP ABOUT IT