Kuznetove is just silly now

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Yup since the nerf I mock him every time I see his flare pop.... WG broke what used to be a nice and challenge foe to face.

I used to panic when I first met him, later I loved seeing him as it meant more damage to farm but now all I do is laugh at his petty weak abilities mwahahahahahh WP WG well played.

Posted Oct 26, 2022, 11:48 PM UTC

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Omega414RIP Pensacola, ruined with bad turret traverse.•

30 seconds of healing and dispersion increase was extremely frustrating to fight against. It made already tanky ships like Petro and Kremlin just annoying to destroy. Often times this 30 seconds was long enough for them to survive and zombie heal with a repair party and/or a DCP. Its much more manageable now at 15 seconds.

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MaxPowerGamerOPFire Rooster•

I get that his OP'ness was OP but damn he's weak af now.

he doesn't do anything, been killing lots of Sinops in ranked and its just lols at this stage. Pretty much the weakest unique captain now. Can't imagine how I'd feel if I spent 175k coal on him lol such a waste of time and resources imo.

I never had any issues killing him in the past, in fact it was always fun to come up against him. but now lol

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Cloakndagger993Friesland Simp•

how was it always fun to face a kuznetsov proc?

it made killing the opponent down to even more RNG and it’s a talent that requires no skill or positive game interaction to proc unlike any other skill which relies on kills, caps etc

Kuzzy was by far the most dumb commander as it encouraged bad play and just straight up buff these tanky russian ships which don’t need to be even more tanky through a lack of skill commander

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MaxPowerGamerOPFire Rooster•

Totally agree, just talking about how silly he is now. I used to love farming more damage from him. now he has no gimmick, nothing he's laughable. Sure that extra consumable is good with a first blood but still compared to other captains he does sweet fa. Definately not worth buying is my point

I'd have thought Wee Gee could've come up with something better for their favourite country in game but nah hes a complete joke now.

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Cloakndagger993Friesland Simp•

Sure farming that extra bit of damage is nice, but is it nice when it allows them to get another salvo off killing you and maybe winning the game?

imo the nerf was fine

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YourSATScoreAlways mistaken for the other test score•

Kuznetsov is still strictly better than a generic captain.

His talents still prove decisive in close fights. A Sinop living on 1k HP is infinitely more dangerous than a dead Sinop.

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MaxPowerGamerOPFire Rooster•

that never happens though he gets deleted every time I face him. I get the legacy issue honestly I do and why some players coulnd't handle him in a fight especially in a close brawl. But again isn't that what made him Unique.......

there is nothing unique or dangerous about him now. 175k coal for an extra consulable lols

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YourSATScoreAlways mistaken for the other test score•

I get the legacy issue honestly I do and why some players coulnd't handle him in a fight especially in a close brawl.

No you don't.

I've seen matches swing because Kuznetsov was just enough to let the Russian ship live. Instead of burning out, the BB either kills the target or barely gets to cover. Now you have a -19% reload AR powered BB potentially threatening your star. Please explain how that is not unique or dangerous.

Also, an extra consumable is quite useful for any ship.

As I said, Kuznetsov always performs better than a generic captain.

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OrionsTraveler•

He is still good enough. If you manage first blood you get extra consumables and you still have to do nothing but not get deleted to proc his second skill. And because of the nature of Russian ships it's more likely to die by dot then alpha if you are half decent in them.

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MaxPowerGamerOPFire Rooster•

Yeh I reckon the extra consumables is nice, he might be good on a DD build for that very skill.

His get out of jail free card seems to be gone, had a few more games vs him in a sinop and Kremlin it didn’t end well for him. Used to be he would quite quickly heal up while dcp’d, the heal kinda isn’t there anymore or at least is a lot smaller boost. Gives me more time to blap him.

While it is nice to consistently kill him lately I do miss the risk vs him. There really isn’t any oh shit factor at all.

Just bought Cunningham, he procs so much!! Kuzzy will be the last one I buy after I get the coal ships I like

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Earl0fYork•

Oh no!

Anyway

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MaxPowerGamerOPFire Rooster•

Woop

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lego-baguetteEugen please marry me•

You gotta remember that kuznetsov procs his talent when you’re low. That’s basically an unconditional proc. Compare that to people like yamamoto, where you either need a kraken or first blood. This makes his talents much harder to proc. Kuznetsov is literally for clutching and pulling off stupid things. Ever died to a perm fire? Now you can’t cause he extinguished them. Nearly 1 shot? I worries he can just heal your ship. Low health and a BB just shot at you? Watch as all his shells magically have worse dispersion.

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MaxPowerGamerOPFire Rooster•

Yes that’s exactly what made him special. Clearly doesn’t happen anymore hence my post and laughing at his weakness post nerf.

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MikuEmpowered•

I feel like im having a stroke reading this.

What part of auto procing DCP with heal is "weak"

I don't even want to imagine what your stats looks like if you think a ship with Kutz proceed becomes a "challenging foe".

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MaxPowerGamerOPFire Rooster•

Stats lol ooooh stats lol moron.

Ffs the community is all hung up on the past. And refuse to entertain any discussion pertaining to Kuzzy, it’s simply nerf him nerfffffff him lol.

His new heal / dpc does nothing he gets deleted every single time. EVERY SINGLE TIME. I love it.

Just seems the ONE thing he had going for him is useless now ergo he’s pathetic and not worth the cost of a coal ship.

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MikuEmpowered•

ah yes, tell me you throw games without telling me.

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MaxPowerGamerOPFire Rooster•

Never have never will throw a game xxx

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7h0rc3•

I remember one specific Kremlin I encountered. My first spread of torps triggered the heal, so the second one was greeted with fireworks. That es fun.

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MaxPowerGamerOPFire Rooster•

Ahh yes similar happened to me in a brawl, my Pommern dumped torps next min firework pops and I’m like wtf he’s still alive. Still killed him… but definitely made me more wary of Russian boats

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Rei_Yukihyo1WoWS CC•

So in another words, actually a balanced special commander who is from the nation that consists of the most tankiest ships?

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MaxPowerGamerOPFire Rooster•

Nah he’s weak af now and his core ability is pathetic. Love love love seeing that flare pop and a few seconds later = dead lol.

He’s far from balanced he’s weak and not worth 175k coal.

Alas you seem like you were butt hurt by him in the past and just see it was some form of petty justice served.

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