How low can you grow? The 1 Watt challenge

Good morning dear fellow growers

Last winter I decided to do an ultra low power experiment: Can you grow bell pepper plants using only 1 single Watt for the lights? Today I would like to share the surprising results with you.

On various hydro forums I got the impression that "more is better" regarding LED lights. People are using several hundred Watts for medium-sized tents. Because of the ongoing energy crisis, the cost for electricity has risen significantly, so we have to aim for maximum efficiency and the right dosage to keep our costs down.

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A few thoughts came to my mind:

  • The efficiency game is more or less solved imo. With LED emitters like the Samsung lm301b and lm301h evo, we're almost at the limit for white emitters, with over 220 lm/W if you underdrive them. Red/Blue LEDs would be even more efficient in theory, as the chlorophyll has two absorption peaks near 460nm and 660nm. But I have seen mixed results online. In most experiments I've seen, the white lights outperformed the red/blue ones using comparable amounts of energy.
  • How do you get most of that light to the leaves? First, you obviously get the light as close as possible to the plant. Second, you want to use reflectors or optics. You want to lose as few photons as possible. Why don't more people use them? Other than prevent hotspots, I don't know.

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I used this 7x lm301b star in 3500k, this driver, and this reflector. I measured 2.69V @ 350mA at the emitter, which gives ~ 0.95 Watts. As you can see in the pics, my whole setup pulled only 5.826 Watts. The air pump used ~ 2 Watts, the fan ~ 2 Watts, and the rest was power strips and the LED power supply. The grow tent was always closed in order to not distort the result (opened just for pics).

I managed to get the plant flowering, but for producing peppers, the 1 Watt appears to be too low in the end. The temp was much too low (17°C most of the time), next time I would rise it to get optimal conditions.

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Posted Oct 27, 2022, 8:34 AM UTC · edited

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jaytrouts•

This is extremely interesting to me. I figure you'd be able to grow salads with this easily?

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ColdDayAprilOP•

Good idea, salads should be easy under 1 Watt per plant.

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ike-mike•

This is awesome, thanks for sharing !

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Ytterbycat•

Cool. You don’t need fan it this system. How many lux you have on the leaf?

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ColdDayAprilOP•

5cm away from the lamp (where the canopy is), I get 60k-70k lux in the center. Towards the outer leaves it drops to 20k-30k lux. The lower leaves get a lot less than that.

Pretty amazing that you can get that many lux from 1W if you go close enough.

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Bengalcats888•

Thanks for confirming. 👍

Less power required when light is closer to the plant. Shaded leaves don’t seem to be affected by it.

I never used my light panels at full power due to electric costs. I put the lights close as possible and dim to 25-30% power.

Now you can build and sell a 2-4 watt grow light panel.😎

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Quirky_Inflation•

How do you get such lux values ? I'm using led strips and I'm at 4k lux at 5cm. Did you calculate a power per cm² at the canopy ?

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ColdDayAprilOP•
  • The 7x lm301b emitters on this star are very close together
  • The reflector probably boosts the lux @ 5cm by another 50% (just a guess)

I did not calculate the lux beforehand, and just used my smartphone for measuring. You absolutely have to use optics or reflectors. How much power are you driving your strip at, and how many emitters does the strip have?

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s0mthinG_•

Why do you measure in Lux and not Par/PPFD

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ColdDayAprilOP•

Honestly I wasn't aware that there's a PAR app out there 😅. I'll measure with that in the future 👍.

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s0mthinG_•

I don't think there is an app for par, I was saying specifically using a PAR meter as that is the usable amount of what is essentially 'solar radiation'

Edit: PAR is another term used to refer to PPFD which stands for Photosynthetic Photon Flux Density.

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Top_Resolve_8183•

Great

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JamesPilgrim•

Amazing job! How many weeks from the first picture to the last one?

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ColdDayAprilOP•

Thank you! 92 days.

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Lampshade2022•

Thanks for this! Really a treat.

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ColdDayAprilOP•

Thank you! Great to see that such experiments are interesting for others.

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herenextyear•

Was your light on 24/7? Did you increase CO2 levels any? I noticed you mentioned you may have gotten different results with increased temp. Though I haven’t seen any mention on the other two parameters.

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Pentosin•

Would increasing Co2 leves do anything if the plant is energy limited anyways?

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herenextyear•

Maybe not. I would imagine not. But the whole point of experimentation is to see where theories are mistaken. So that’s why I asked. Someone like you or I would think “no point in changing that parameter”. Sometimes that’s where the interesting things are found. Some times we just further confirm the best theories.

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ColdDayAprilOP•

I think I had an 16h/8h rhythm. 24/7 wouldn't be beneficial for any plant I know of.

I didn't increase CO2.

Next week I'll have a new try using a strawberry plant, let's see how that goes.

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digitalwankster•

That's amazing what you were able to grow that with less than a single watt. I wonder what the minimum viable output would be to make the flowers bud.

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ColdDayAprilOP•

Thanks! Maybe 1 Watt could be enough if I had better temps in the tent. Or are you talking about buds of another famous plant?

I'm not into weed, but would be fun to test a small autoflowering strain. I bet you could break the world record of grams per watt this way 😅.

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digitalwankster•

I meant actually fruiting. That being said, the requirements are probably pretty similar if the similarities to growing tomatoes are anything to go by.

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iPeculiarly•

Until someone comes in and says the sun is free =P

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34786t234890•

Wow that looks really healthy. I wonder if you could use this setup until it matures then add a very bright light for a short period each day to stress it enough to fruit.

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protonpusher•

Awesome 👏

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TolMera•

I don’t see how many days your setup ran for in your post. 1w/100days vs 1w/60days is a pretty big difference.

This is an interesting challenge though, I would love to try this myself. Might do (moving so I’ll finally have space to experiment)

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ColdDayAprilOP•

Good point. First image was January 6th, last was April 8th, that should be 92 days. Slower than usual, but again, 17°C was much too low.

Yes, please challenge me! Tag me if you do so.

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kelvin_bot•

17°C is equivalent to 62°F, which is 290K.

^(I'm a bot that converts temperature between two units humans can understand, then convert it to Kelvin for bots and physicists to understand)

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DonBosman•

Thank you so very much. This is fascinating and useful information.

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Wait, is your netpot holder just the saucer of the plant? Brilliant!

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ColdDayAprilOP•

Well spotted 😅. I like to reuse things, so I cut out a circle using a hole saw.

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Also good for pennysavers like myself :-)). And I bet it makes a nice light reflection on the underside of the leaves, well done!

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Novel_Short•

Awesome post! Looking to try and replicate but the reflector you originally linked is sold out. Can you recommend an alternative?

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ColdDayAprilOP•

Oh yes, please do so and tell me if you post it.

I glued this other reflector on a 7x lm301b star: https://www.led-tech.de/en/CREE-Mirella-Reflektors

Note that the leds of that star pcb won't fit inside the reflector. I had to cut a larger hole in the base of the reflector with a sharp knive. Not super clean but it'll work.

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Great job. I need additional light for my chillies and was looking into a budget light. Thank you.

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bfb 19

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