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Why do people try to justify suffering?

There's this tendency among a lot of people. Saying that "It's all a part of life. You need a balance of good and bad. It's the cycle of life. It's not bad. It's just is. You just have to adapt and take it." This is such an awfully disgusting view of the very real suffering that other creatures have to endure for billions of years that apparently has no end. 

What an oppressive reality we live in. All of life is built upon exploiting and taking advantage of others. The human race is not an expectation. We exploit our own members as well. We make them our slaves, wage wars, rape and torture them. Though this is more than just a human phenomenon. It happens in nature every single day. 

The human mind and its grotesque imagination terrify me. What heinous, sadistic, and devious torture it can bring to life. We are like smart and self-aware beasts. What we do to other species is one of the greatest horrors. Everything we've done in the past has left a mountain of corpses behind us. We always ignore everyone else's life in the process. Mankind thinks that everything is for him and that he is the centre of the universe.

All the suffering, the pain, and the killing don't seem to be a problem for society simply because it happens in nature. Aren't rape and violence equally bad and horrific in nature as well? Suffering is suffering. It's violence and it has to end. It doesn't change just because it happens in the wild.

Nature as a system shouldn't be maintained at all. It should be fought against. No one ever really proved why life should exist in the first place. Especially if it comes with horrible atrocities and brutal torture of other beings. Life itself is a terrible mistake. It's the abomination of the universe.

Posted Oct 28, 2022, 7:21 AM UTC

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Goldenbranches•

Because they are dishonest, selfish and want to be in denial by choice, they will blame it on nature of things/life only on selective issues. They don't even have the decency to admit that they're making the wrong choices out of laziness, selfishness and lack of self control.

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BrotherBell•

Optimism bias aka delusional most people have it.

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throwawayyyuhh•

I agree, they’re ridiculous.

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old_barrel•

Why do people try to justify suffering?

many talk nonsense by purpose and/or delude themselves. many confuse wanted potential outcomes with a false assigned positivity of suffering itself

yes this world is an evil and disgusting one

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defectivedisabled•

Survival bias. They can only understand the state of being. Non being on the other hand is incomprehensible. The concept of nothingness scares them more than anything. So the alternative to not justify suffering would be embracing the non being, which to them is even worse than being.

The same goes with those natalists. Their entire philosophy is literally built on life being a balance of good and bad. It is total nonsense. Why does life need to be good and bad? Nothingness on the other hand surpasses the duality of good and bad. It is beyond duality, free of eternal conflict. It is the final state peace and tranquility one can attain in this reality. It is this failure to understand nothingness that creates the fear of missing out of existing.

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ReginaldWutherspoon•

Everything said in this thread is true, & that realization is why I visit this subreddit. ..just for the reassurance that there are others who know that.

Of course the peace & tranquility you speak of will be there for everyone.

In fact, as I always say, this life, with its danger, suffering & loss, is only a blip in Eternity, a brief interruption of rest, sleep, & the peace & tranquility that you speak of.

…which is our natural, normal, usual & rightful state of affairs.

In the ever-deepening sleep at the end of this, you eventually won’t know that there ever were, or even could be, such things as identity, time, events, danger, loss, lack, or incompletion.

Being born into a life is regrettable, a sucker’s game. If there can be reincarnation, it would be inadvisable.

Yes, understandably you’d prefer that, however temporary, the life of danger, harm & loss never start for anyone. Just nothingness ever, without this undesirable interruption.

But I claim that the notion of that isn’t just impossible—It’s not even meaningful to speak of. To speak of it is to not be saying anything.

That’s why we have this hard, cruel, but brief interruption called life.

Don’t blame it on God, or think that it means that Reality is cruel. Reality can’t be blamed for the fact that things aren’t a way that can’t even be meaningfully said.

Not only is there nothing we can do about it, but there’s nothing that Reality can or could do about it.

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