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When God made Eve

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Posted Nov 6, 2022, 9:15 PM UTC

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That's a really interesting analysis of the reasoning (as it were) behind the creation of eve out of rib of adam. I was talking to a friar about something akin to this, and he said that it represents an equality between Man and Woman in the early stage, before the fall from grace, when Adam first asserts authority over Eve, in contradiction to the original divine will.

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jarhbowlj•

You are wrong. Adam did not assert authority, rather, he failed to do so, and therefore the Fall. He was made first, was taught directly by God, and was given the woman as his aid and companion. If Adam would have represented God well, and told her 'no,' and did not take of the fruit there would have been no sin. When Eve takes of the fruit, there was still no sin. It's not until Adam takes of the forbidden fruit that the problems began, because the man is held accountable directly to God and she is held accountable to him. However, the Bible is clear, that between a man and a woman it is a balanced union. Not to hold rank but, to help each other and be One. One is not above the other, but the man is held to account before the woman.

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[deleted]•

OK- I'll discuss that with my priest, but until then, we'll have to agree to differ

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jarhbowlj•

I'll certainly agree to that. I would like to keep a dialogue open for future discussion though. I like engaging this topic and similar ones.

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Icy-Trash-1514•

When does he assert authority over her?

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As a sign of Man's authority over animals, God issues Adam with naming all the animals, however, on the creation of Woman, Adam only describes Woman in terms of his relationship with her, he does not give her a name (ie- an assertion of authority) until after the fall from grace.

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Icy-Trash-1514•

I did not know this! I've done some research after reading your comment and I've also discovered that Eve means "living" in Hebrew, since she's going to be the mother of all humans, but there's also the interpretation according to which Adam chose to give her that name instead of "death" to focus on the positive since they were going to die. In the end, I believe it's just a difference in translations of the word. God never changed her name. Adam named her originally. It's just that different languages employ different characters of alphabet. And then even within a language, pronunciations vary across the centuries.

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Snoo_10910•

I like this reading of biblical myth. I'd call it subversive of the misogynism in Abrahamic religion.

The bones you pick and the motifs are beautiful. As someone who probably does not have the same religious convictions, it's a lovely and thoughtful piece.

Love a good love poem.

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Icy-Trash-1514•

I'm not religious either but I find using religious topics elegant when used for poetry jaja

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IndigoRose2022•

This is beautiful ❤️

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Icy-Trash-1514•

♥️

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j_ustpeachy•

This is incredible keep writing

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Icy-Trash-1514•

Thank you very much!

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Major-Proposal-451•

i don't really know a lot about the bible or religion in general but i love this, people need to go back to the beginning and realise that even so many years ago people qaw eachother as equal

i think that is a big part of most religions that many people seem to forget

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apeacefuldad•

Closer than two animals could ever be, together.

love at it's finest.

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Icy-Trash-1514•

That's right

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FisherOfBitches•

Your stuff is great when you don't delete it eh!! But I liked this myth reading very much! I don't know much Bible and doubt this was the 4000 year old myth but myths and stories can change and this is a good change!

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Icy-Trash-1514•

Jajjajaaj You got me! Sometimes I regret posting certain things... Thank you for reading

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wideopenflame•

Love this creation story. Well done!!!! ❤️

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Icy-Trash-1514•

Gracias ♥️

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Bustinmusic•

There's something about the Adam&Eve story that just fascinates me so much! Hearing different perceptions and takes on the story will always be interesting. Amazing work!

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Icy-Trash-1514•

I heard someone use a similar story to this in a christian community, so it inspired me! Thank you

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That-Ad3538•

I really enjoy the relation of fifteenth bones/ aspects of the body to differences in the relationship, really interesting concept. :)

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Icy-Trash-1514•

♥️♥️

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[deleted]•

This is just taken from Aquinas

Kinda simplistic but good

Also as Aquinas notes the woman is taken from man’s heart

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Icy-Trash-1514•

Oh really? Did Aquinas say that? I had no idea. My idea though was more that since the heart is behind the rib cage, this way Adam's bone would be facing her heart in a way. Similar though. Interesting.

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https://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/79660/is-this-phrase-about-adam-and-eve-recorded-in-the-talmud?newreg=0c35190353474a88a219eeff63a5b9ed

These posts track it from Matthew Henry to “Abarbanel,” a Jewish commentator.

But I find it earlier in the summa:

It was right for the woman to be made from a rib of man. First, to signify the social union of man and woman, for the woman should neither "use authority over man," and so she was not made from his head; nor was it right for her to be subject to man's contempt as his slave, and so she was not made from his feet.


I also wanna say that on rereading there is a simple but pleasant rhythm to it. Good job again

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Icy-Trash-1514•

Soo interesting, I got the idea from a Christian woman who told me about why God made Eve from Adam's rib, since I'm not religious myself I did not know where the idea came from. Thank you

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phersephoneia•

Yeah, I’ve heard many sermons on this exact “interpretation” growing up in the church. Not sure it’s completely original.

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Mia_Baggs•

Love this rendition of the applicability of reason to why a rib bone. Not from head nor heel but right at the side.

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