HiRez continues to selectively ban, player base continues to decline
steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&jst...Posted Aug 24, 2012, 8:02 PM UTC
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Correlation =/= causation. I think everyone expected a spike in players when they released on Steam.
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Here is an image of it in case the site starts blanking out again.
This is the graph of active players on Steam playing Tribes Ascend, so it doesn't represent the entire player base - but it is of sufficient sample size to represent what's happening with the player base as a whole.
EDIT: In case the title is unclear, I don't think the decline can be attributed to any one factor, including the bans (unless you count HiRez sucking dick to be one factor).
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The game has low player retention because it is difficult, and because it doesn't support 'casual' gamers, yet hasn't yet tapped the larger competitive scene either. I don't really know what you expected...
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TA isnt the only one...if you watch the graphs of other games you will see.Also it doesnt say anything about banning players.I read an article which said the player base is 1.5 mil and going up...not sure how true it is.
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I read an article which said the player base is 1.5 mil and going up
No, this is HiRez being deliberately deceptive with its player base metrics. The standard metric for a F2P game's success is concurrent (active) players. 1.5 million is the number of players that have registered for the game, period, regardless of if they played the game once or a hundred times. That number is meaningless for an F2P because trying the game out brings absolutely no revenue to HiRez whatsoever, nor does it give any measure of player retention. HiRez themselves have flat out refused to release concurrent player numbers.
They've done even more hilarious shit in the past like give "number of downloads" (which is a different measure entirely). It's all PR bullshit to make their game look more active than it actually is.
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Yeah i just realized it was nr of downloads not players.
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I don't believe for a second that this game has over a million players. I'd love if it were true, but it just isn't.
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My mistake...its downloads not players. http://www.hirezstudios.com/hirezwp/?p=2015
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What's reducing the player base like that?
I haven't played in a while because I've started playing Ghost Recon Online, but the player base there is pretty small so I'm sure that's not why people are leaving Tribes :P
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Summer vacation ending for school-age players, maybe?
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That makes sense.
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Hey, "selective" banning is actually how it ought to work. I mean, would you rather have "indiscriminate" banning? "Random" banning?
Also, the end of summer vacation probably affects player-base numbers...
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It is "selective" because they only remain banned if they aren't competitive players. I guess I should have said "selectively unban" to make things clearer.
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But this just is not the truth in any way whatsoever... I mean there is literally no example of Bart ignoring an unbanning request based on whether a player is in the comp scene or not. Total bullshit.
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Possibly the most twisted evidence I have ever heard. 'wouldnt have been banned if he were on a team.' Maybe if he were on a team HiRez would have unbanned him, I don't know the process. But that statement is fucking absurd.
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Yes, it is the truth. What are you even talking about? Bart has ignored or turned down many people's requests for an unban. I speak from experience, and have spoken to several other people who had the same outcome.
The fact you tried to speak for everybody by pulling "THATS LITERALLY NEVER HAPPENED EVER" is ridiculous. I know HiRez has their dick in your mouth, but I didn't think it went that deep.
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TURNING DOWN A REQUEST IS DIFFERENT FROM IGNORING IT. You are talking shit.
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Are you retarded? The peak is irrelevant and it continues to decline, it has yet to "even out". And this is for a F2P game that hasn't even been out for a year yet.
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Parts of the game are incredibly frustrating due to bad mechanics, physics, features and balance. It's fun to ski and blueplate for sure but various design decisions by hirez actually make the game worse. Don't expect the decline to stop unfortunantly.
Tribes deserved better then this :/