What really happened at Pearl Harbor?
I just wanna start by saying I don't know much about Pearl Harbor, and that's why I wanted to make this thread. I'm hoping to open up a discussion with people who have done the research on this!
The more I think about Pearl Harbor, the more it doesn't make sense. We had radar at the time, and the Japanese fighters would have had to fly across half of of the Pacific Ocean to reach Hawaii. How did nobody see them coming?
Also, why would Japan attack the US? It seems so random to just attack a one base that's so far away from the actual mainland of the country. It's not like it was gonna do anything else there than piss the US off.
Last but not least it seems like there are false flags that get us into every war: Cuba(attempted), Iran(attempted), Russia(attempted), Vietnam, and the Middle East- That's just off the top of my head.
If you have any good resources, please link them here!
Posted Nov 30, 2022, 1:48 PM UTC
They saw the planes on radar, but only from about 120 miles out (they had a range of less than 150 miles), the commanding officer of the radar station was brand new and didn’t effectively communicate this information but if he did the help would have been minimal. The Japanese planes were also flying from their absolute maximum distance, many assumed it was a suicide mission, in order to avoid being detected until the last moment.
Japan believed the US was gearing up for war in the Pacific and was going to deny them access to islands they needed for rubber and oil to continue their war in China. If that had actually occurred, Japan would have been totally screwed. The US Pacific fleet, the only instrument of force projection across the Pacific, was based in Pearl Harbor and critically crippling it would end the US’s ability to seriously contest Japan’s positions in the Pacific.
We have pretty strong first-hand accounts of what the Japanese did and why, the commander of the mission was an extremely prominent admiral of the Japanese navy who is well-documented coming up with the attack on Pearl Harbor and arguing for it against more conservative admirals and the army, who opposed it.
The closest to “False Flag” this can get, I think, is that the administration knew it was coming and didn’t adequately prepare. They did inform the military a Japanese attack was likely, though, so.
Japan did announce that they were going to attack, somewhere, at some time, since it was considered dishonorable to attack someone without any warning. US intelligence believed the attack would occur in SE Asia. No one ever considered that the Japanese would sail halfway across the Pacific. B y the time we realized that Pearl Harbor was a possible target, that warning arrived after the attack.