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I was poking around looking for a version of the Ilias Latina with macrons, when I found this website: https://www.iuno.us/ (In Usum Nostrum Omnium: texts for all of us).
It looks like it could be pretty useful, it has a dozen macronised latin texts available and some more listed, but greyed out.
The text browser feature where if you roll-over the word it gives the parsing info (number, case, voice, mood etc.) and a headword/definition dictionary entry. I checked some ambiguous forms on one text and the correct case for the context was given each time, so they must be doing a lot of this manually. Clicking a word sends you to logeion.
I didn't make this a link post because I don't know w


Quasi III/IV abhinc menses, cum annales hiberniæ otiose volvebam, huic quod excerpsi obviavi.
Auctor, anglico (ut credo) genere, in Hibernia manens vel natus, scripsit chronicon a natale Jesu usque ad annum MCCCXLIX, brevitate autem temporis coactus pauca de rebus gestis ante sæculum XIV^um litteris mandavit et, relatis eventibus terribilibus qui anno MCCCXLVIII^o sunt facti subjunxit hoc:
Ego autem frater Johannes Clyn de Ordine Minorum et conventu Kilkennie hec notabilia facta, que tempore meo acciderunt, in hoc libro scripsi, que occulata fide vel fide digno relatu didici, et ne gesta notabilia cum tempore perirent et a memoria recederent futurorum, videns hec multa mala et mund
Literally don't know anything else about this text apart from the obvious (it's about the Albigensian crusade, not later than 1216AD).
Erat quidam pessimus haereticus apud Tolosam, Hugofaber nomine, qui quondam in tantam lapsus est dementiam, quod juxta altare cujusdam ecclesiae purgavit ventrem, et in contemptum Dei cum palla altaris tersit posteriora sua. O scelus inauditum!
From Petrus Alphonsus' Dialogus Contra Judæos, who is more famous for the Disclipina Clericalis, but here he, a jewish convert to christianity, debates his old self - having already disproved judaism, it's time to disprove Islam (specifically their belief that throwing stones can drive of demons). But we get a little sidetracked...
PETRUS. Quod dixisti lapidibus iaciendis daemones effugare, non consequens ratio videtur esse, quia quod non aliquo percipitur sensu corporeo, effugare leviter nequaquam potest. Nomine vero divino effugantur daemones.
MOYSE
The source of this data is the Oxford Medieval libraries of Great Britain website, to give an idea of the chronological skew of this data set the number of entries for each century is:
<14th cent. 5073
14th cent. 20202
15th cent. 14442
16th cent+ 13383
[note: I literally missed half this list on my first look through, may have missed one!]
Top 15
| Rank | Name | Catalogue entries |
|---|---|---|
| 1 | Augustine [354–430], bishop of Hippo | 3136 |
| 2 | Jerome [c347–420] | 1025 |
| 3 | Thomas Aquinas [c1225–1274] | 773 |
| 4 | Bernard of Clairvaux [1090–1153], abbot of Clairvaux | 752 |
| 5 | Hugh of Saint-Victor [c1096–1141] | 644 |
| 6 | Gregory the Great [c540–604, sed |
Can any one provide any further reading or support for Andrew Sihler's statement (New comparative grammar of Greek and Latin, 1995, pg 227/section 237)
The ablest analysis of the question pins down the phonetics of -m as a nasalized [w] in careful speech, which in poetry behaved like a final glide and in casual speech styles seems to have dropped altogether.
Sihler, for whatever reason, provides no citations for anything - no bibliography, nothing. So my question here has to be extremely vague: is there anything, other than this bold statement, to support this: EDIT: specifically the nasalized [w] as opposed to a nasalisation of the preceding vowel? Any further discussion
