I'd like to see a discussion about the relative relationship of Red Pill and Dark Enlightenment.
As I see it Red Pill has two charactoristics. The first charactoristic is that Red Pill is an objective science about how the genders behave sexually and socially. The second Red Pill charactoristic is to encourage self improvement so that you can build wealth and power which is then fed right back into the dysfunctional Matrix of Cultural Marxism keeping it alive.
Dark Enlightenment seems to accept the first charactoristic but is more skeptical about just "playing along" and becoming a bigger contributer.
The MGTOW ("Men Going Their Own Way") can be somewhat disinterested in the Rat Race an