The weird part of my story above is that I was full awake and alert. It was not like a sleep paralysis or something. I want to lucid dream 2. My dreams are now like super real I can’t tell of it it a dream in my dream self. Sometimes something happens in my dream and I think it happend in my real life. Very frustrating

I definitely haven't experienced this but weird things can happen when you're falling asleep. When I began image streaming, I started having lucid dreams (best lucid dreaming technique I've tried) but nothing like that. You could have just been half asleep

You just gave me the perfect building blocks and frames I have been looking for for a long time. Thanks for this gift I appreciate it!

yes something therapeutic , a practice that helps you clear the garbage in your mind, your demons, etc.   

IM is just part of a bigger of Tools I use, with the purpose of not exactly getting a higher IQ but a Lot beyond that.

Some of the other practices I've done (and still practice) are described in this post in the BTOE forum . 

Follow some of the techniques he mentions it will help you a LOT. 

[https://www.my-big-toe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=69593#p69593](https://www.my-big-toe.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=69593#p69593)

What do you mean with internal work? Like meditation or breathing work or so? What was your image streaming journey like? Something changed?

Maybe you should do some internal work before imagestreaming again. Most individuals who imagestream really do not know how much of a "Pandora Box" their Minds can be.

Hi, thanks! I'll do my best to answer your questions...

Mindset: I was in college and found the Wenger book while browsing a bookstore - I read half of it then went home to try to stream. The benefits of an IQ boost appealed to me as I was having trouble in computer science and trigonometry classes. 

I was a little uncertain of the practice at first - the images were plentiful from the beginning but there were so many and they weren't pictures but moving images. Trying to describe them in detail with all the senses was difficult because they were changing faster than I could talk. 

But I persevered - I would bring my tape recorder into my car and park in an empty lot to do it because at home, trying to speak at a low volume was holding me back. 

Negative side: At the time I started, I didn't watch horror movies or much violent media so it was very alienating to me to see so much gore playing in my imagination. I remember seeing flashes of insects and guts and things like that very 

I appreciate your answer.Thanks for sharing that with me. The thought and the sentence that everything will be fine whatever happens to me work well on me, you reassured me.// Do you mind to give me some extra information on your experience with image streaming? 
-What was your mindset when you started with image streaming? Was is after so many times that you experienced that negative side, or was it like in the beginning of your journey? Had something changed in your cognition after the practice of I.S.? I’m very curious!

I was imagestreaming a lot about 17 years ago and I was getting awesome lucid dreams but also a lot of dream recall of very vivid nightmares and strange, paranoid images while streaming - this coincided with a ghost encounter (not while streaming) that I won't get into (bc its a long story) and led to me deciding to no longer imagestream - judge that how you will.

However, I've come back to it a few times basically since the pandemic began and since having some positive experiences with psychedelics (which I had always been afraid to try). I'm no longer as superstitious. I think things like this are probably normal although not something Wenger focuses on - don't be afraid - you're safe even if a little bit creeped out or worried about your mind.

Something I've been getting really into that is very similar is hemi-sync stuff and the Gateway Tapes by the Monroe Institute, that I stumbled on here on reddit at r/gatewaytapes. It's kind of similar - in that you're inducing a relaxed stat


I’m on day 3 with practicing image streaming and yesterday I had a weird experience. I had a rush of uncontrollable and terrifying images in my head when I was just trying to fall asleep ( I did before that a short Wim hof breathing exercise.) While that was happening it also seems like I was in some kind of transcending and I felt some force out of my control trying to make something or some pressure between my eyebrows. It felt really powerful and something I was not ready for. I became anxious and opened my eyes. I hope I’m not getting crazy or something. Anyone experience with this?

Strange experience