What an amazing game. Since I'm basically going through withdrawal now and grasping for any remaining Persona 5 content, here's my Tier List.
Posted Jan 13, 2023, 2:17 PM UTC
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Kamoshida and Lavenza sharing a tier has got me fucked up
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frrrr
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Not gonna talk about how shiho is in there too? That’s just insulting. Kamoshida literally like molested her and made her jump off a building then was all sociopath about it
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Why don't I see igor in any of the tier lists in this subreddit?
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So glad I’ve finally found one of these where the villains aren’t all in F tier. Honestly why don’t people like them?
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Like the other guy said, they're meant to be hated.
However, I ranked them on how much I loved to hate them. Shido was a realistic, cold, evil bastard. Great villain.
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Glad someone see Shido as a great villian. Also stupid to see people say Shido's not realistic when basically every government has a Shido like politician.
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It's the execution of Shido's role as the big villain that I particularly didn't really feel like was done well. For as much personal grudge Joker should feel towards Shido, there was barely any thought or interaction about him until pretty much the end that you could almost forget about him. Then, when it was finally time for Shido's arc, they tried to make it like it was a climactic, mysterious moment when we as the player have known about Shido for a while. The "Damn brat, I'll sue" flashback was replayed more than necessary. I just feel like his role as the big villain didn't have the impact that it could've had due to the lack of personal connection the player and seemingly even Joker had for hin.
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Yeah like if he had a much vitrol toward like having voiced lines you can choose. Would've been better.
If Joker talked more like Yu and The True Culprit in P4 felt rivalry felt real because you have dialog options and also the Anime.
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Cuz they’re villains, they are made to be hated
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Why nobody likes Mishima????😭😭😭
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Makoto is best girl, Sae and Sojiro are the coolest adults in the world, and Ryuji is a true ride-or-die best friend who was nice to joker from the beginning. That's why they get a tier bump over the rest my S-tier.
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100% agree
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Massive W for having Makoto and Ryuji in S+ tier
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For real!
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The biggest indicator of someone belonging in the circus is if they put makoto at S+ tier
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ur funni
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I'm glad you put Iwai on S tier, while he's not brojiro I think that he really was one of the best confidents.
Overall it's one of the tierlist I agree on the most, I would have just ranked the Twins higher
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Wouldn't be a P5 tier list without Makoto being in the top rings
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ight so first lavenza (imo) doesn’t belong nearly that low especially not with kamoshida, plus how is kamoshida not the worst. i hate that mans
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Personally I found the twins a lot more interesting and engaging than lavenza
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i will admit they had a lot more to them than lavenza, i just really liked lavenza for some reason
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That’s why kamoshida is so good, he is meant to be a very real villain that you as the main character have a real reason to hate, and he fulfills that role perfectly
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never thought about it that way, that’s actually a pretty good point.
but i don’t think that’s what this teir list is about unfortunately
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Nah that person is correct, I ranked the villains based on how much I loved to hate them. Essentially I ranked them based on the quality of their characters rather than as if they were real people.
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i see i see, then that makes a lot more sense
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Wait. That dude really isn’t given a name? It’s been a while since I played it but doesn’t one of the characters he’s on the phone with call him by name?
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As far as I'm aware, he is only ever referred to as "SIU Director" or just "Director"
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Bro so many tier lists in this subrredit, ima do mine putting the majorety of characters in trash tier
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As a Makoto supremecist, I approve
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Midkoto
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You take that back
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Akechi bussy aint that bad bro
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!It’s decent, but not worth taking a bullet for!<
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Nah he was an asshole to me and my friends the whole game (mostly indirectly, but still). I enjoyed his character arc a lot and by the end of the game I loved to hate him, but his fake kindness wore on me from the very beginning.
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I don’t like joker as much as other people, because I don’t like myself as much as other people
!/s!<
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Bro has immaculate confidence
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Yeah, when I have complete control of my social life and the ability to reload saves to fix any mistakes.
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Why is Kamoshida not F- - - -
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Well you're supposed to hate him and he does a good job at making you
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Because he is a good character
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Ryuji's ranked the best and thats all i care
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literally me tier lol
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I mean like, I had complete control over his actions and even the ability to travel back in time to undo something if I seriously messed up (by reloading a save). Why would he be anything other than my ideal version of the character?
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i mean yeah
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Shido above Akechi is causing me physical pain
I mean if I'm putting them on tiers as villains, they faced each other and only one came out alive. I feel like that alone separates them. But also, Akechi was also mostly just the triggerman for Shido.
Shido was THE "Big Bad Evil Guy" of P5. Everything tied back to him through the entire game (until the surprise final boss that retroactively said he was technically the one pulling the strings even though that was not hinted at throughout the game at all).
It actually his hinted at very subtly in the bubbles where everyone is talking. If you watch the public opinion, it shifts back and forth to what is interesting. They don’t follow through with a cause. Then towards the end in a quiz question (when the public is deep against you), the holy grail (an object of mythical desire) is directly mentioned as inspiration for the heart suit in a deck of cards 🙂
Also, those who know Igor’s mannerism’s knew something was up (if the voice wasn’t a dead giveaway). He sits like he is bored out of his mind but the real Igor looks like he’s relaxed and owns the place.
To be fair, that's just realistic. If the public was just like that, and the game ended after Shido I would not have given a single thought about "wow the public was weirdly fickle, wonder why they didn't address that at all"
And yeah, having not played any of the previous games I imagine that was a pretty big giveaway to anyone that had played them.
That’s a fair take. The thing that tipped me off (aside from at least something being up with Igor), was the intensity of the public swinging back and forth. They treated Shido like a Messiah rather than a promising politician toward the end of his arc. That sounded off putting and cultish to me rather than supporting political views. Then again, these days that seems pretty realistic sadly 😂
I think you’ll have a notable shift in opinion if you play Royal bc I felt the same way about P5 vanilla’s ending