All of the Tesla sub right now about SC CCS retrofits
Posted Mar 1, 2023, 2:31 PM UTC
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I am part of the tesla family and honestly, it's pissing me off that nobody cares to ask how it's working in Europe.
It's been months tesla supercharger are open to CCS cars here, and everything works perfectly...
But no ... People prefer to complain every day without even opening a bit their minds to what's happening to other markets.
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Because the EU mandated a common connector for EV charging so Tesla had to use CCS. They kept it proprietary here (then they tried to declare it the North American Charging Standard, and everyone laughed) Now if Tesla wants government subsidy for chargers, they have to open their charging network to other vehicles, and if there is one thing Elon and his fraud loves, its government subsidies.
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Why should tesla get govt welfare. So the taxpayers pay for his capex and then the profits generated from the chargers is privatized?
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They should not, but fElon was not going to leave 7.5 billion on the table
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Funny how no money to help Millenials stuck with onerous college loans but corporate welfare is always easy and both parties suddenly work together and vote the same for giving billionaires tax money.
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fElon
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Tesla family
Are you one of Musks kids?
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Check and see if his mom owns any horses.
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Dude ... Can you keep my mom out of the discussion?
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Donāt worry we will, we had your mom sign the NDA just like all the others ;) ā¦but tell her I said Giddy Up, sheāll know what it means.
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valid question LOL
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I bought some Kleenex yesterday. I am part of the Kleenex family!
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Well no but I have a Tesla and I love it. But I love it as a car, just like I loved my Miata before. I don't love it as a social token
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then why are you part of a family?
don't you have a real family?
when you have a really good burger, are you part of the McDonald's family?
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when you have a really good burger, are you part of the McDonald's family?
Of course not. If I'm having a really good burger I'm very unlikely to be at a McDonald's!
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It's because Tesla fans actually hate EVs in general. For them, a non-Tesla EV is worse than an ICE. An ICE is to be mocked. A non-Tesla EV is proof that someone was willing to to the EV route, yet got something other than a Tesla.
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If it's the case then I am not a Tesla fan. I freaking love EVs overall
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Yep. You're an EV fan that has a Tesla - good on you.
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Tesla family huh?
JFC š¤£
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You know, the Manson cultists called themselves "family" as well. Family is just codeword for "I've bought hook, line, and sinker into this shit/cult"
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I see tons of people āwelcomingā other people all the time in those āmy new Teslaā Posts.
Super Cringe imo
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I know, like a brain fell out his head.
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Is the Tesla family the one where the stepfather fucks his daughter? And your sibling trades horses for handjobs?
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Yes
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I think thereās a difference between Europe, where public charging is more commonly found and higher reliability, and the US, where public charging outside of Tesla is complete garbage. There will definitely be more occupancy of Tesla stations in the US as they open up. Theyāre the only reliable fast charging network whatsoever. It will take some years for this to change.
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Americans are huge assholes
Since you were caught lying in this sub about that being your car, it is probably just you who are the huge asshole.
The old expression is that if everywhere you look you think people are assholes, it is probably you who are the asshole.
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get some help for your autism
Yeah, I was right about my original assessment. Autism has nothing to do with calling out someone for lying, even if they lamely try to excuse the lie with the "...but...but...but...it was a joke".
that much of a weirdo...get some help for your autism
You are an awful person to think people with autism are "weirdos". That is really terrible.
stalk my page
Stalking is not about checking out a person's comments to know who you are talking to. Here, I will help you on this:
a pattern of behavior directed towards an individual by another that results in the person to whom the behavior is directed fearing for themselves and/or others
You were fearful based on my comment?
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Thereās a lot of Tesla owners who donāt care if it works, they just see that all these commoners who werenāt smart enough/rich enough/deserving enough are going to be taking up space in their private charging country club.
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Payback for the Tesla owning assholes that treat ev chargers as entitled parking spots.
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Is the plan to open up all or a limited amount of stations? If the sole purpose is to be able to collect the subsidy then Iām sure Tesla will conform to the bare minimum of what the subsidy call for in order to maximize profit.
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They committed to converting 20%
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And that 20% includes L2 destination chargers, IIRC.
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No need for that, you can buy an adapter that works fine for J1772
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It doesn't matter if there's a need or not. Tesla is "opening" 4000 L2 chargers in addition to 3500 DC chargers, presumably to pad the numbers. Now I feel a little silly for buying myself a TDC to J1772 adapter for Christmas! š
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7,500 total. 3,500 super chargers will be converted over
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To my surprise in early January, some Tesla branded destination chargers have J1772 ends already. A local parking garage had a mix of superchargers and Tesla/J1772 destination chargers.
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Oh thatās why nothing in my town is available to non-Teslas. Iām ok with that.
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They just started rolling out in NY and CA
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Give it time, they literally just launched it last night š
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Thatās not so bad from the perspective of Tesla owners who bought one for the charging network as their main determiner. In all honesty I will continue to buy Tesla vehicles unless another manufacturer comes out with a seamless charging option thatās built into the carās navigation system like it is in the Tesla.
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Any car with CarPlay can do this these days. But I've driven a number of vehicles with it integrated into the built-in navigation as well. I haven't really had any complaints with the Volvo or BMW systems I've used.
There are few enough DCFC locations for a given route that I've never really found much value in such systems though. They do seem to pretty accurately predict charger arrival SoC, but I'm stopping for a charge regardless so I always spend a few minutes while I wait looking at ABRP's plan to make sure I'm comfortable with it. Especially since I rarely have destination charging available, so I want to decide on a plan for the last stop before my return trip.
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So with CarPlay you can set a destination on the cars navigation and it will route you to that location including all the necessary charging stop locations? If so, then all cars need this imo.
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Ford has that. And plug and charge
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I keep hearing mixed things then. On this post for instance it sounds like itās all built into the navigation but on other posts people talk about how they have to go through multiple phone apps to find chargers.
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I mean Fordās built in nav does and now preconditions and CarPlay will talk to the car and get battery info if you prefer that way just no precondition.
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Yup, buying another Tesla mainly for the charging network, and because the mach-e keeps getting recalled.
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Lol the mach e does that though. There hasn't been a serious Mach e recall. A few Ota updates. A couple in person updates. Nbd
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My understanding is that NEVI funding can only apply to new charging station installations if Tesla is awarded it.
EDIT 2: I am wrong. Check out u/ToddA1966's comment below for a good FAQ sheet.
Tesla must apply for funding just like everyone else and then Teslaās proposal must be evaluated and accepted.
I believe that any charging stations built with NEVI funding will not allow this āMagic Dockā implementationā¦ at least as it seems to be currently implemented.
There are requirements that the charger must support payment methods that do not require a smartphone, a provider-based app must not be required to access the charger and ISO 15118 (Plug and Charge) compatibility is also mandatory.
That is my understanding anyway.
EDIT:
This was one of the better articles on NEVI requirements/funding plans that I caught a few days ago.
The final NEVI rules document is also here. I have not had the time to exhaustively review it... and I may not be entirely competent in doing so.
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According to this NEVI FAQ at the DOT (https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/environment/alternative_fuel_corridors/resources/nevi_program_faqs.pdf), NEVI funds can be used to upgrade non-compliant chargers to compliance, so in theory Tesla's conversions (as long as they meet all NEVI criteria) could qualify. (Though definitely not in the current state, which lacks a price display, credit card reader, CCS Plug and Play support, etc.)
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Good catch!
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Not really. It's in the FAQ, but I'll be damned if I can actually find it in the actual rulemaking! š
I'm pretty sure I'm not cut out to read 100 pages of legalese and should probably keep my day job!
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Supporting other payment methods outside of using the app is good as long as there is still the option to use the app or no app. I like the ease of Tesla charging the way it is now, where I just pull up, plug in then go without having to worry about payment.
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The āpull up, plug-in and chargeā (with no extra steps) is, also per my understanding, a top-level goal of the NEVI program.
I am still reading up on the NEVI funding rules, but I have almost convinced myself that Tesla would decline to bid on many (if not all) NEVI-based RFPs in actuality.
It seems that Tesla would have to somewhat significantly redesign their current charging units - and accept the added complexity that comes with payment terminals on the charger, displaying the charging costs on the charger itself (independent of the Tesla app) and communicating/negotiating with a variety of third-party vehicles.
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Looks like their plan is to use the NEVI money to build new chargers that work with both their cars and CCS - roughly 10% of their chargers by the time implementation is finished.
Which is a good step in the right direction, but a question will be how they manage access by CCS vehicles. One rumor is that they might restrict access to Teslas only when their other chargers are full.
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I donāt agree with this. If they are going to open up a station then it should be open 100% of the time otherwise it could leave non-Tesla vehicles stranded without a place to charge.
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Yeah, it will be bare minimum for sure.
With that said, newer stations will probably have magic dock & longer cables out of the gate; however, doubt they will make a major effort to retrofit.
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So... Why don't they just tweet his majesty about the problem and let him solve it?
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This is fān hysterical.
I read some Twitter thread and every other comment was something about ātaking up two spacesā
š¤£š¤£
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Tesla needed to extend the cable AND this āMagic dockā. Honestly, only reason to use a Tesla Supercharger is when nothing cheaper is available to use.
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Or the fact that none of that EA garbage is reliable.
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Itās been pretty reliable by me. Your mileage may differ.
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Itās fun to mock this but it will be an issue in the long term.
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Yep until they make longer power cords or make them all drive thrus.
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Not in my driveway lol
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This
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Now I need to hit the close ones and take up two spaces with my lightning
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they should say hello to the tesholes who park diagonally at electrify america plugs and sit there for 2 hours
...and do it without even pretending to charge
https://photos.plugshare.com/photos/652352.jpg
The Schisa does what The Schisa wants my friend
at least they are honest about the quality of the car.
The Schisa never lies.
That reminds me of a joke.
Knock knock
Iāll remind you that the model 3 is the most reliable BEV according to consumer reports with the most review data. I know, sucks right?
Edit: downvote facts, that makes sense.
Ugh, I don't have this adapter. Oh well. *walks away
That's really fucked up.
This isn't the first time I've seen that happen
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How do I know it is your car?
Proof?
Looks like u/live-tale-2923 is a liar.
They got their car a month ago and live in San Diego. This pic is older than that and from the Bay Area.
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