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cloudberrylive

Should the Mythic+ 0.1% end-of-season title be spec specific? Why or why not?

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Just food for thought and to create a discussion around the title:

Should the Mythic+ 0.1% end-of-season title be spec specific? Why or why not?

If you are unaware, at the end of a Mythic+ season, titles are given out to the top 0.1% players on the leaderboard (by raw mythic+ score). In Dragonflight, this % is even streamlined to Solo Shuffle in PVP with the top 0.1% of players receiving a unique title as well.

There are some classes / specs that are clearly not as represented as others at the top of M+ (and solo shuffle) and it makes me wonder if players might feel more inclined to play a spec / class that they have at the ready over their main, thus slightly altering the meta.

This of course really does not affect many players, but I think its interesting to discuss (and more interesting if someone who likes statistics wants to analyze title cutoffs in m+ based off of class / spec instead of overall and how drastically (or not) this would affect who receives such a title).

I also find it interesting that the % of 0.1 is chosen for these titles when Hero of the Horde/Alliance is 0.5%.

At the moment I've stopped my season push at 3k rating in m+ on devoker and don't see myself going much higher in no-voice pugs / through group finder as I've been doing. 3k for devoker is 0.05% of my spec, so this post is just food for thought :P

What other ways could Blizzard influence the "meta"?

Posted Mar 12, 2023, 10:36 PM UTC

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rabid89:horde::shaman: •

TLDR: OP secretly plays Survival Hunter.

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explore1501•

No. Survival hunters shouldn’t get a title for just completing a +2.

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Aspalar•

I know this is a meme but every spec can push to at least 20. I have done 20s as SV and depending on the dungeon on tyran weeks I can usually top the charts.

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Slimcharlesxd•

My both alts are assa rogue + surv hunter. I like playing specs that noone else does. Ive done plenty of 18-19s few 20 (dont get invited to 20 since im competing with a spot vs 418ilvls here) on both of them, around 412 ilvl. Same here, I rarely see anyone with my ilvl have the same overall like me.

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Nikspeeder:horde::mage: •

Just look at duck doing gods work on surv wirh 3.2k rating.

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derwood1992•

It dawned on some of my raid team that we had a survival hunter in our mythic raid last week. We were laughing at the fact that I had a rank 250 on mythic Terros for ele shaman because there were only 1000 parses. Then I looked down and saw the survival hunter with only 300 total parses on terros. Apparently I wasn't the only one surprised we had a survival hunter in our group lol.

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Hustyx•

I had one the other day that must of been pushing, it was a +5….

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CondorSweep:horde: •

I actually think that could be interesting, incentives playing weaker specs

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Ziddix•

I think you're asking the wrong people

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justforkinks0131•

3k for devoker is 0.05% of my spec

because it's not meta.

That is what you have to understand. The best players play the absolutely best specs.

If Blizz gave a title to every spec, then the devoker cutoff will be 3.2k or 3.3k because u will have people like Gingi playing it. The best wow players are not playing devoker, survival and etc.

If they were, the IO requirement would skyrocket for those specs....

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Haulsen•

And that would be better for every spec not only the obvious meta right? they will have their share of the spotlight and WAAAAAAY more content being produced by top notch streamers, which would help everyone that actually like to play off meta classes, showing their strenghts weaknesses and actually providing better comunity feedback on what needs to be done to get a spec back on track

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justforkinks0131•

Kinda hard to predict tbh.

For races like MDI, TGP or RWF you will still see ONLY the very best classes, that's the nature of those races. Title wouldnt affect those at all.

However for streaming outside of those races... maybe? Im not sure how much impact it would have, but yeah I suppose...

Still you prob will have players like Naowh with the title on every tank spec, instead of different tank players on each spec. Kinda makes it pointless. It would be more content for the top players tho, for sure.

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Seiver123•

One problem i see with making it speck specific would be that i would feel really bad for a group if the 3 slightly worse classes all get the title while the 3 meta classes dont get it because there were more of them doing high keys even though they did all their keys as a group effort.

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DaenerysMomODragons:alliance::deathknight: •

To add on to this, the only way non-meta specs could even get the title would be by playing with meta specs to begin with. You'd never have a group of five non-meta specs getting the title as a group.

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Full-Somewhere440•

I would say leave .1% as it is. However introduce more achievements for top level play. One way to solve this would be spec specific badges. Next to your name when you chat you can enable a badge that reflects like what percent of player you are for x content. Then players could mouse over that badge for more info. It should be region specific. Top 100 in the region for DH? Get a little illidan glaive next to your name that slightly purple or some shit. People would love that.

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Drss4•

Yeah, I think it's just the result of the blizzard's poor balancing in general. I think it is good for people to stick to what they love to play instead of what gives the biggest number. It would be fun to see people pushing their spec to their limit.

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ExEarth•

DPS/Tank and Healer balancing is as good as it ever was, you can get the Titel on every spec in the game, even if it's harder in some than on others. There are a lot of player's that only plays their spec sind forever in m+ and they usually get they Titel, even if they ain't meta. If you seek out to get there on a off meta class you can Dina's they can too.

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Drss4•

Yes, tank and healer balancing is the best ever, but I doubt that would be the case every season from here on out since PVP/Raid balancing is still something blizzard will need to worry about.

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AtonementApplier•

As a disc/holy priest hardstuck on 3k because priest is the most useless healer in dungeons right now and it's better to bring a shadow if you need Mass Dispel or PI for extra damage, I agree.

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Caronry•

I mean... people rather take a disc priest over a hpally/mistweaver any day... so priest really aren't the most "useless healer" right now.

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AtonementApplier•

Ironically these two have better CCs, stuns, kicks... Guess what priests have? A fear that breaks instantly, and void tendrils which is a root (but mobs don't stay rooted for more than a milisecond). If losing utility over PI was a thing you'd only take priests instead of preservation and resto druid.
Not to mention, the community perception is so bad because it's the hardest healer to play optimally. I doubt you would invite a disc with the same score of a holy pal or mistweaver.

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Caronry•

because it's the hardest healer to play optimally

Have you tried playing Holy paladin optimally ?

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DaenerysMomODragons:alliance::deathknight: •

I wouldn't call disc useless, it was seen fairly regularly in the MDI. Not as popular as Evoker certainly, but was with a lot of fire mage comps for PI.

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Nervous_Scientist_22•

Noob question probably, but, is this 0,1% of realm, region or world?

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cloudberryliveOP•

Region, all players

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DaenerysMomODragons:alliance::deathknight: •

One thing you have to realize is that if there were a title for every spec, the best people in every spec would be pushing for it. And those people would look for the best team comp to get them there, and the best comp for a non-meta spec would be 4 meta spec players to compensate for their weaknesses.

Most of the people already getting the title, have alts of other class/specs, and know how to play them well. It would likely be the same people getting them, and rotating them in with their regular meta team.

People who play a non-meta spec on a meta class will almost always see their spec unusually low because those who play that class will play the meta specs, because they do want to push higher. Why play a weaker spec when you can play a better one.

Once there's titles for every title, people will look at what title is easiest to get, and push that spec, which then makes that spec all the much harder.

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