Any chatter about 8/10gig internally at Frontier?

I know some of the people that hang out here work directly with bringing the fiber rollout plans to life and work in the field for Frontier or are a contractor for them. I'm just curious, don't really care if it's only locker room talk? I also ask because Google Fiber is about to roll out 8gig and I think AT&T already has? Lot of 10gig ISPs on the Utopia fiber network (Utah) as well.

Nobody needs that speed, but it's nice to know what's being talked about and whether or not steps are being taken to go to an 8/10G network in the next year or so. Hell, for all I know, the equipment is already in place to go to 8 and 10G and it's just not offered yet. 🤷‍♂️

Posted Mar 17, 2023, 3:14 AM UTC · edited

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glitch1985•

Didn't they just start offering 5gig a couple weeks ago?

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cryptosageOP•

Wen iPhone 16?! What are the features?!

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In all seriousness, I think 5 gig has been out for a few months now, but don't quote me on it. Days blur to weeks. There's no reason for me to ask, I just wanted to know if it's being talked about since there are ISPs already doing 8/10 and the 5gig is feeling a little slow and less brag-worthy when you are trying to be on the bleeding edge. lol

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just-a-tech1200•

We are not allowed to release that info outside of a major announcement. What I can tell you is that the ONT we use maxes at 10gig, for now, the PON in the office with a simple card swap and new pons or added in, that equipment supports 25 gig. But as for now, 99% if people can only handle a 10gig connection anyways. Maybe in 5 years. 10 years. At one point 20 Mbps was considered insane and who would ever need more. Wounder if we ever will find the answer of how much is enough some day people might have 100gig to their homes..... Or faster. This is an interesting time that we live in.

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cryptosageOP•

Nothing will ever be enough until we can jack in to the matrix and experience virtual reality with all 5 senses. Going to guess that’ll take 100gbps minimum per person jacked in. 😜 😉

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just-a-tech1200•

Maybe we are already inside the matrix.....

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tech1337•

Yea 5gig rolled out at the beginning of Feb. I sure hope we're not doing higher speeds yet. Majority of Customers can't/don't know how to utilize it correctly and FTR has a problem with rolling things out with poor testing.

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Smokeless_Powder•

I had 5 gig installed today and I literally asked the installer the same thing, but he said they haven't told the techs anything about speeds above 5gbps, for what its worth.

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cryptosageOP•

Thanks for chiming in! I knew I couldn't be alone. Only people that are nuts want 5 gig in the first place. So at least we and the others with 5 gig are in that club of wondering wEn iS tEn GiG cOmInG?!?! hahaha

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Smokeless_Powder•

No worries, every time you mention you want anything above gigabit fiber everyone comes out of the woodwork to tell you how you don't need it. I wonder if these people also whine whenever they see a sports car drive by because the speed limit is only 65 and they're just wasting their money most of the time since they can't drive it to its full potential... Some of us have legitimate needs, or just want the best and it's like $60 more a month to get the highest tier of a service we spend tons of time using throughout the month. Sure, most of the time I won't be maxing it out, but it was nice downloading a 60gb game in 5 minutes on Steam today!

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ht3k•

Pretty sure CEO said they're working on 10 gig. I thought I read somewhere by the end of the year but this is that I found with a quick search

https://www.fiercetelecom.com/operators/frontier-boosts-fiber-target-to-10m-locations-eyes-10-gig-service

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dredbeast•

The maximum rate on a XGSPON is 10gig down and up. That is the amount of shared bandwidth on that type of PON, which are what they give home services.

Are they doing these 8 and 10 gig services not on PONs?

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tcb1005•

I would imagine they would probably be using Nokia's 25GPON Tech which they have trialed in the past. https://www.lightreading.com/opticalip/frontier-connects-with-nokia-on-25g-pon-trial-/d/d-id/774083

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mmlzz•

They can do 8Gig, but I don't think we'll see 10G until they upgrade to 25G PON.

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David_Kudell•

I have 5gig and a 10GbE network…I haven’t yet found any internet sites to get me more than maybe 1.5-2gig on a download. That was Frame.io (I do video editing). So I don’t see the point of 10gig until the Internet catches up.

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cryptosageOP•

The point is to have 10 gig for the sake of having 10 gig. 😉

But I’m good with 5 gig too. Loving it since I received my Netgate 6100 yesterday and can actually see the full speed allotted to my ONT now. Getting ready to hook up the DAC cable that came today to get my NAS back up and running.

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murk00•

I have the Frontier 5 gig and it’s a absolute beast. All my hardware is 10gig so as soon as they offer that I’ll be hoping on 😎

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cryptosageOP•

I wish I was getting 5 gig. I’m lucky to get 3 consistently since about a month after I got it. Had it for almost three now.

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