The Portland Trailblazers have declined Kevin Knox's $3M Team option
Posted Jun 30, 2023, 3:33 AM UTC
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I’m hoping this means we have no time for guys like Knox next season. The 3M for trades would’ve been nice but they’ve got options.
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I think part of it is just roster space. When you draft 3 rookies you really like there’s gotta be spots for them
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Idk why everyone is so bummed about this. He was fine for a very bad, ugly, tanking team, but if they hope to actually be decent he was never going to crack the lineup. And clearly there’s no trade lined up to use him so 🤷🏻♂️
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And clearly there’s no trade lined up to use him so 🤷🏻♂️.
I would say that's the part people are bummed about more than Knox actually coming back.
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Trade market feels sad this year
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GM's are waiting to see if the dame dominoes fall this year. Which is smart because if he does reverse his standing, they want to keep all their moveable assets in the hope they can dangle it for Dame
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I hope he gets another shot somewhere... when they stopped playing Cam, he showed some range and a nose for the ball. He's better than I thought at least
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I thought we would have kept him for $3 mil. I guess we must be getting another forward, which is good.
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KJ's TO has already been picked up. He is the $3M equivalent, on the third year of his contract, which still has another TO. That expiring $3M contract is already there.
Scoot's first year will be for about $9M, and Murray about $2.5M.
You don't have room for Cam's QO with Scoot.
You don't have room for Knox's TO with Murray.
You still have to use exception room to sign Rupert.
You have to sign those players to contracts, and have the open roster slots to sign them, in order to have/know what your exceptions are.
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I think as of July 1st under the new CBA they don’t have to use the MLE to sign 2nd rounders.
“ A new salary cap exception has been created for second round picks in the new CBA. The exception permits three or four year deals with small salary bumps over the rookie minimum in the first few seasons to be given to draft picks. This intentionally helps teams with high salaries sign their second round selections to reasonable deals, but it also helps every team use their cap space and other exceptions more effectively.”
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In the new CBA, which takes effect in 24-25.
There's still one more season of the current 7 year CBA signed in 2017.
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Makes me wonder what is going on. Cam and Knox at the respective QO and TO would have been decent filler for trades at the deadline. Gotta wonder if something else big is coming and we have to shed salary. Maybe to make sure we can use the NTP MLE? Or bringing more salary back in a trade?
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Because Jeramy Grant is gonna get 30 mil a year and we’re gonna be up against the cap
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Pray we don't overpay grant like that
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We're already gonna be over the cap. It's a matter of luxury tax and whether or not we're willing to push it. Those would have been two tradeable contracts to fill in salary matching that we can't just simply replace. If we're gonna cheap out, the writing is all but on the wall that Dame is gone.
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If we can’t find a taker for Anfernee Simons how in the hell are we gonna find somebody to trade for Kevin Knox? Also Cam Reddish’s QO would have been like 7.75 mil and he is absolutely not worth that.
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Great point.
All the “filler” people - what if we get stuck with it??
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Both of those are expiring filler to make salary work in trades, worth it or not. That is valuable at the trade deadline
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I don’t think Jody will want to pay luxury tax until this team can at least put together a winning season or make the playoffs.
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I think you're right that we're trying to use the non-tax payer MLE. That lets us sign someone for $12.5M instead of just $4.5M (tax payer MLE).
Right now we're sitting at $110M. Re-signing Grant will bring us to about $140M but before that, Scoot will get signed to almost $10M. And now we start getting close to the $164M tax line when you add the other rookies and Thybulle.
Letting Reddish and Knox "walk" lets them explore free agency and other opportunities. Both have stories about being stuck in unideal situations so this lets them see if that's true. At the end of it, we could still bring them back for minimums.
Their failures are overblown. Not great lottery picks but there's still room for growth for 23-year-olds. Neither is a clearcut downgrade from Nas/Jabari/Watford/Murray fighting for the backup 4 and there are no vet min options that are going to be the difference of Dame staying or leaving (unless Melo is the new Haslem).
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If they had picked up his option, I would’ve assumed it’d be to include his salary in a deal for a player making more money than Ant/Nurk. But declining his option makes me think it’s less likely that a big trade is coming.
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Still an expiring tradeable filler contract at the deadline, and because we're over the cap already, we can't just replace those
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He was a nice flyer
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Dude doesn't belong on the roster of a good team, at this point. Maybe he'll get better, but I think he should brush up on his Mandarin.
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Can't play defense
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Knox Knox
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Who’s there?
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Knox not there 🥹
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I’m actually surprised, I thought theyd keep him for super cheap salary as a 10th man. But I am not super locked in on the financials though.
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Damn thought he was finally turning around w y’all
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The thumbnail on this post is tragic lol
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I thought they would push out that deadline so that they could use him as trade salary. I think that this means they are planning on using the full MLE. Could we split the MLE and get BOTH Hayes and Bamba? I know it's legal to split it, but I wonder if it's enough to get both.
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I think Grant will get 5 years for 140, with the last year being a team option. Murray is a better version of Knox, but that 3 million could have been valuable salary combined with Nas contract in a deal for a bench guy.
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He was on the team?
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Thank god! Now let's decline Cam Reddish's and put all of our development effort into players with a shot at staying in the league.
Cam is the definition of untapped potential, and not because of coaching.. he holds himself back. He never plays with any drive or intensity. He just floats around, waiting for it to be "his turn" and when it is, you know he's taking the shot.
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Let’s hope it’s for a good reason
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I mean the reason is he's not an NBA player at this point. That's the reason. They don't want to pay someone to suck.
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Then why did they bring back Keon? Would much rather have Knox
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Who?
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Could have used his salary as a match in a planned trade. Not thrilled about this.
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Kris Murray