Sorceror is just not fun.

Opinion

We all know about the myriad issues sorc bros have at the moment, no need to even mention them by now. What I will describe below is what I hope everyone across the board can mostly agree on - Sorceror is just not fun to play in WT4 and NMD from 30+. We all agree that fun is the goal, right? Here's why.

We have access to quite a lot of procced DR, through paragon and aspects - dr from chilled, dr from burning, dr from cc, etc. So you may think, well everyone's build is too focused on offense (fallacy as per all known offense issues, but anyway), use the tools we gave you for DR to stay alive! But here's the thing.

YOU CAN'T PROC DR FROM THE ENVIRONMENT. The MOST CHALLENGING enemy for any end game sorc at the moment is the ENVIRONMENT.

Meteors during helltide, elemental blasts after monster death, and notably, MOST of the NMD afflictions. They can and will one shot, or 2 shot you, even in a NMD 5+ levels below you, with a good build. I'm not complaining about running 20+ levels up here guys. This happens DOWN levelling too.

THIS. IS. NOT. FUN.

I actually do pretty well as a sorc vs. actual enemies. Even post patch. The gameplay is REALLY fun - especially with Raiment. Fast, precise, rewarding. It is not rewarding to pop like a grape instantly when a monster dies and you're stuck in excessive cc. Or when blood blister you missed while actually having fun with packs of mobs across the room goes off. Or when you're trying to open a helltide chest and the game lags for 3 sec and you have been killed by "a environment" I played druid after sorc and was absolutely flabbergasted by the environmental survivability.

Armor is always on. Resists are (SUPPOSED TO BE) always on. They can be procced to be even better, but there's meant to be a base level of coverage there that doesn't need to be procced. Disobedience nerf was big but that didn't even matter for this issue, since it needs damage to work, and walking doesn't do that.

As it stands our only options for DR that don't need an enemy to proc, that I am aware of, are DR while inside own blizzard, DR after teleport, and DR when using basic attack. DR on items too but of course none of our uniques have any. I may be forgetting something but there aren't many options.

Okay. So I have to waste an enchantment slot on blizzard and only walk during the times it is active so it follows me, and I need to put a basic skill back on my bar and stop to use it every 5 seconds. And I need the unique want to get cdr for TP to actually be usable somewhat often (but wait, there's more!). JUST TO BE ABLE TO MAYBE WALK AROUND WITHOUT DYING SPONTANEOUSLY.

And then the icing on the cake. The piece de resistance if you will. The random tp on the wand will very likely put you, where, do you think, in a NMD with afflictions or a helltide with meteors? Oh and in case you were hoping for DR while in blizzard to be your ticket out...yeah. Is there a blizzard waiting for you wherever you may land, if you're not within the enchantment window?

Please, for the love of god, make fixing resistances, an absolutely critical and core part of this game, a priority.

Posted Jul 20, 2023, 1:54 PM UTC

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https://streamable.com/mqftr7

You can see how long it takes me to handle an elite pack by myself, when I can't allow myself to take hit point damage at all or I'll be swatted. I'd like to stand inside and kill those elites but that melee attack would kill me outright.

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Kill the purple guy with the aura first and the rest will vaporize

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You take a Chain Lightning Sorc in there and let me know how it goes.

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🤷‍♂️

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The point of the video is you can't. This build isn't viable. But because everybody has to be toxic the response is that it's me who sucks.

Go try it.

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Dozingoffatwork•

Sorceror is just not fun to play in WT4 and NMD from 30+

Cool, that makes me feel good about the +43 my hydra sorc did right after the patch. The only problems she had was with the 6 champion scorpions (two packs of 3) that were all freezing affixed. I haven't been able to play much because of the new wow patch, but it sounds like burning is better now than it was a week ago.

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IspanoLFW•

Just an FYI, if you're using the burning option for Hydra, it's bugged and scales with mob level. Meaning they could fix it at any time. It's also why people using builds with it seem to do better at higher NM tiers.

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Khaenn•

try repairing ur gear becouse im not sure how you manage to die so much

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undeadsasquatch•

Not trying to be a dick, but what lvl are you and what sorta build are you using? Running NM's where the enemy is UNDER your level should be an absolute walk in the park so there's something you're doing wrong here. As example, I'm running NM's with enemies 10-12 levels HIGHER then me (83) with Sorc and doing just fine. I haven't gone past NM45 but after 50 or so is when most people seem to agree that sorc starts to get easily one shot and falls way behind other classes and was made only worse by the patch.

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abletonrobOP•

Level 93, running ice shards/fire bolt/the meta build. The enemies are fine - of course anything is a one shot explosion with raiment and frost nova...same in helltide. Super fast destruction. That part is fun and satisfying. But that's actually my point. I decided to try speedfarming for the oculus because I was bored and they nerfed all the overleveling XP so I was doing nm 35s. Enemies are pop bye bye but any affliction, right through ice armor to half life, if I was lucky enough to have it up at the time otherwise near death for sure. Any fire enchanted anything, 2 hits and same story. Death pulse? lol. I have 10k hp. The environmental effects are what kill me instantly because I can't kill them, unlike the monsters. Afflictions and environment seem to work pretty balanced on druid - still gotta pay attention but it's not like stopping to view the map for 5 seconds is a potential death sentence.

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I tried to clear the t2>t3 capstone dungeon on my level 50 full legendary mostly synergistic build sorcerer last night. I died twice before the curator, and the curator got to his third segment of health then immediately proceeds to one shot me.

Fun class blizz, glad it’s in the game.

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