D7: Endgame Farming Method - C14 Batch Farm. Infinite Gas, Gachaless HP/SP Extracts, Zero Gency Seal of Power, Trait Hunting, and More. Even DLC optional!
This method allows one to do quite a bit of the true endgame grinds all at once. Initial discovery was on the JP wiki, then put into "infinite" territory by space244, then further refined into WTF territory by our own Disgaea Discord.
In practice, you use Number Padding to turn in the Poltergas quests quickly and consistently due to treasure chests counting towards the quests. The initial discovery was to use the map 4-4, but we use a much better map: Carnage 14 (it has more units with higher levels and stats, and a far higher item rank). The map change makes Infernal Corrsion viable as a source of extracts due to the sheer amount of units killed.
This awards a metric ton of EXP/Mana juice, trillions of HL in just a few hours, allows to rapidly get dual innocents, and can even allow one to Trait Hunt in a few short minutes per attempt due to never running out of gas.
To have this work, we must clear the stage in one turn, and C14 does take quite a bit of prep to get the most out of it. You can use 4-4 quite a bit earlier but generally, you're doing this for the recently unsolved PvP.
The evilities and DI I use are what worked for me, there are plenty of other ways to get that lone unit in the corner.
WHAT YOU WILL NEED:
Attackers required to be subclass mastered, supports units will find it nice, but don't strictly need it (prioritize Noble Cause and Dominant Smile).
Early runs have Cheat Shop set for Weapon Mastery and Skill EXP, can be swapped off when you want. Otherwise Cheat Shop set to what you want to farm.
War Lady (the Nyandroids) with 10m Base and 10m extract stats with the following:
Character Position #1
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Treasure Hunt - primary
Run Them Down - primary
Evil Eye - primary (optional)
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Number Padding - 1 (Evility Squad)
Gender Bender - 1 (Evility Squad)
Taste of Victory - 1 (Gacha) - do earliest runs at 0 star to build this
Unstable Power - 1 (Gacha)
Prinny Hat - 1 (DLC, Fuka) Replace with Convert Force if no DLC
Deadly Footwear - 1 (Meiko)
Full Power Swing (crit) - 3 (Orc)
Crumbling Body - 3 (Zombie Maiden)
Ensure Victory - 2 - Can be replaced with First Impression (DLC, Fuka)
Infernal Corrosion - 5 (Evility Squad, unscrollable)
Man-Eating Bunny - 5 (DLC, Pleinair, technically optional)
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Weapon Traits - 4x Treasure Found (optional but preferred)
4x Embezzlement Extremely Optional
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Juror/Aid Hyperfocus (DLC, Girl Laharl) optional but very nice, especially if you combine with Prinny Instructor for EXP/Mana gains.
Long Range may be able to replace Deadly Footwear + Ensure Victory
D.I.
If my SP is 100% or less -> Panel (20,36) -> Move toward target -> reset target -> enemy forces -> Nearest Unit -> wait -> wait -> wait -> Use Full Strike
V -> (at A2) Enemy Forces -> Use Full Strike
A F.Samurai Killer (I use Yeyasu for the support synergy) with 10m Base and 10m extract stats with the following:
Character Position #6
Spell: Tera Wind with at least a range of 9
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Treasure Hunt - primary
Run Them Down - primary
Clear Mind - primary (optional)
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Number Padding - 1 (Evility Squad)
Taste of Victory - 1 (Gacha) - do earliest runs at 0 star to build this
Unstable Power - 1 (Gacha)
Prinny Hat - 1 (DLC, Fuka) Replace with Convert Force if no DLC
Deadly Footwear - 1 (Meiko)
Coin Toss - 1
Full Power Swing (crit) - 3 (Orc)
Crumbling Body - 3 (Zombie Maiden)
Ensure Victory - 2
Infernal Corrosion - 5 (Evility Squad, unscrollable)
Man-Eating Bunny - 5 (DLC, Pleinair, technically optional)
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Weapon Traits - 4x Treasure Found (optional but preferred)
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extract evilities are truly optional here, replace with damage if needed
If DLC, can trade Deadly Footwear and Coin Toss for First Impression (Fuka).
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Juror/Aid Hyperfocus (DLC, Girl Laharl) optional but very nice
D.I.
Panel (19,36) -> Move toward target -> reset target -> enemy forces -> Nearest Unit -> wait -> wait -> wait -> wait -> Use Tera Wind
8x Support Units, including an Angel/Nitra, and preferably Melodia for optional Additional Action. If you have DLC: Bieko, Artina, Rozalin, Melodia, Angel/Nitra, Pleinair, [Flex], and Suisen. Fill in missing DLC if any with Sorcerers.
Angel/Nitra must be in Character Position #5
Suisen must be in Character Position #10
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Cursed Dance - primary
Lovely Song - primary
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Noble Cause - 4 (Opener)
Magnificent Cheer - 3 (Meiko)
Merciless Command - 3 (Opener)
Tactical Guidance - 2 (Suisen)
Cheerful Aura - 2 (Pirilika) optional on Angel/Nitra
Dominant Smile - 3 (DLC, Etna)
Joint Maneuvers - 4 (Nekomata)
Angel/Nitra D.I.
Ally Forces -> Nearest Unit -> wait -> wait -> wait -> Use Valkyrie Order
Tower D.I.
wait -> ally forces -> nearest unit -> Tower Climb
Suisen D.I
wait -> wait -> ally forces -> nearest unit -> Tower Climb
Melodia D.I. (Optional, only use as needed)(May need correcting)
ORDER OF ACTION 19 (must move after Suisen)
wait -> wait-> Panel (19,35) -> Move to target -> reset target -> allied forces -> lifted unit -> wait -> wait -> wait -> wait -> Use Passion Approach
Essentially, the above DI will place the War Lady into perfect Full Strike range, backpack all the supports onto the War Lady with Suisen at the top, Angel/Nitra uses Valkyrie Order on the War Lady, War Lady fires off four Full Strikes, Yeyasu kills the unit in the corner, then if anything is still alive, Melodia ReActions the War Lady that then fires off four more Full Strikes. If no Melodia, you will have to move the samurai killer to space 19, 35 and use a Maiko where the samurai killer usually is. If so, the killer won't benefit from some of the support tower, so be careful about this!
HOW TO USE THIS:
There are three primary rotations to do this: Small Batch, Seal Batch, and Quick Batch. These all utilize reset maps in order to refresh the quests. Reset maps include: c4-4, c4-5 (for Base Kill gacha points), c10-5, or whatever else works for you.
- Small Batch is 1 DI, 18 AutoClears, 1 manual reset map. This gives 50M HP extract at 20 stars, and you can run 16 items in the research squad that you can pick up after three Batches. This method is gas positive in the long term (600 in, 610 out) at basic hunt and goes *quite* positive if you have Treasure Found x4.
- Seal Batch is 1 DI, 28 AutoClears, then grabbing the items from the Research Squad and running their Item Gods *to completion* for Seal of Power for all eight items, finishing the item and making it eligible for the next Batch. This is always gas positive (203 in, 216 out) even at basic hunt. This makes Seal of Power not need gency! This method earns 75m HP extract per Batch, more if your SOSeal unit you're grinding for has room.
- Quick Batch is 1 DI, 28 AutoClears, then 1 manual reset map. This is not gas positive, but is by far the quickest way to Trait Hunt and is useful for slowly bleeding the gas the other two earned out. This method earns 75m HP extract.
You can replace the manual reset map for an additional c14 DI clear if you're *really* lazy, but it will very slowly bleed gas in all Batches.
Small Batch And Quick Batch flow:
- Get Poltergas Quests
- Do batch on c14
- turn in quests
- do reset map
- After checking Innocent Farm and Research Squad, Repeat at 1
Seal Batch flow:
- Place 8 items in research squad
- Get quests
- Do Batch
- Turn in quests
- Do Seal grind to items, actually completing the item
- Reincarnate items, place in squad
- Repeat at 2
WHAT THIS GIVES YOU:
- Extreme amounts of EXP/Mana juice if Cheat Shop is set for it.
- Trillions of HL if set up for it, usually by replacing extract evilities. This can happen extremely quickly.
- Quick and rapid Innocent Farm checks for dual-stat innocents.
- Quick and rapid Trait Hunt for one to two groups of items, which allows you to have First Gen be the final product (so you can start with a trap and not an arcadia) and not waste time.
- Enough Item Points you'll never use them all.
- All of the extracts at speed comparable or beating gacha claim speed, especially on console.
- A very good chunk of your Item Collection, for better or worse.
Is this all too late? Maybe. Can it be improved further? Probably. But if this helps even one more person break into PvP (which is again, back to being unsolved), then I'm happy.
WAIT, FOOD AND GENERATION HUNTING?
Right. When item reincarnating, consumables are a common option. A consumable has a tendency to reincarnate into more consumables. They can only roll Rare Traits. If you hit Reincarnate to First Gen, you reroll Rare Trait chances. It adds up.
Generation Hunting is that, once you have a trait you know you aren't getting rid of, you dupe the item seven more times and make it the new "base", then run those until the next one shows up. This only really works if the First Gen item is the final result. Stealing eight traps, for example, then running them all via Batching until Swing About shows up is viable.
BUT ITEM WORLD GIVES ME ENOUGH GAS.
Item world is also a blob of loading screens that, using these, will only need to happen when duping or perfecting the final item.
You can also just grab the quests, use all 300 gas on c14, and then claim the quests to start at 60 again, but get well over 750 million HP extract in less than 30 seconds. Then just start batching again...
Posted Nov 2, 2023, 7:40 AM UTC
Can confirm, this is the game changer that makes trait hunting on legendaries so much less painful than it already is.
I was the one who pointed out that rolling items as food was probably more efficient than rolling it as it's base item. I had noticed when I was rolling gencies and got swing that they never rolled common properties. When I learned this method generation hunting was the only technique at the time. I combined the two and eventually got swing about on a trap.
I can't confirm that rolling as food makes rares more common, but at least you have less commons cluttering up the item, and thus less work.