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SonAgro

The Story of An Ex Hamza Admin

It's been a long time since I've interacted with this community. I left Hamza's discord a long time ago due to being demoted from my admin status because I disagreed with Hamza on several things but I recently discovered I still remained in this reddit. I still see more kiddos being funneled into the depressing pipeline that is commercialized redpill/self improvement. I've seen people overcomplicate shit as simple as their sitting patterns or being fearmongered about every day utensils having even a miniscule trace of estrogen.

I didn't come here to be a condescending prick but simply am highlighting my observations. Even after my departure from this space more and even younger individuals are drifting into this space that keeps them in a cycle of mediocrity, coming back to hear what their internet sugar daddy has to tell them next. No shit go to the gym, capitalize on your skills, further your education and better yourself as a human being. Perhaps you find social advice from someone like Hamza useful and I agree, men who have experienced various trials and tribulations can relay their experiences to helped the unexperienced but there are also cons that accompany these pros.

Like I mentioned before don't fall into the trap and stagnate. As a man you should carve your own path, come to perceive the world by your own understanding and interpret things for yourself. I came to understand this and when I was vocal about it I got the boot from Hamza's community. But I'm happy. I'm making strides in my psychology course, I've developed various hobbies such as travelling and cooking. I've made many new friends and I've found my new community. I'm happier more than ever compared to when I was when I was tethered to the IV drip of Hamza's community where everything is a competition where you are never enough.

But don't get the wrong idea. Challenge yourself, aspire to achieve your dreams and your goals. Listen to the role models that are present in your life and I mean irl first and foremost. Adhere to the knowledge of your elders and be willing to be kind. Spread peace and love. As men we are told to suppress our emotions. There is truth to this but our emotions also make us human they make us feel alive. They drive us to change our unwanted circumstances and they bring us joy whenever we achieve what we set out to accomplish. Don't be brainwashed into giving those things up. Stay true to whatever faith you subscribe to and always be a man that others can rely on.

As for me, I might come back here to drop nuggets of wisdom. I'm still learning and growing after all. I turn 20 in 70 days so I have a ways to go in terms of development. That's the last thing I'll leave on. Always strive to grow. I hated the obsession Hamza had with other people when it came to competition with other Men for resources like women or trivial riches. We're humans not savages. You will only cause yourself mental anguish with such thoughts. Comparison is the thief of joy. Strive to surpass the you from yesterday. Be in competition with yourself. What can you do better? How can you improve? What adjustments can you make? Keep those things in mind. This has been Agro. I'll be seeing you!

Posted Nov 10, 2023, 2:26 PM UTC

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No-Secretary7296•

What you say here is exactly what hamza is now saying on his channel. Follow your passion etc etc. He's grown and changed a lot

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Ambitious_Log_1884•

Exactly, his image has become quite reformed now and his messages are a lot less extreme in his recent videos

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DiyKokose•

Redpill communities have a lot of these fake chads, and Hamza understands it. He shames people for watching his content and not applying his advice in their lives. In one of his videos he also shamed those kinds of hedonists that save a million just to buy a sports car, expensive shoes or watch without any long term goal.

You can't attract the 1% without getting the attention of the 99%.

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Connect_Sir5394•

my self improvement really skyrocketed once i stopped watching him, it's cool that he gave some directions, but that's about it, nowadays when i want to improve i just read books or articles from the Art of Manliness website (incredible site btw)

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Mistawhite123•

Yeah same. I watched those 1-3 hr long videos he posted like 3 months ago during my gym sessions and they were my final goodbyes. I’ll give him credit for actually telling me and others to stop watching self improvement videos and learn from books instead+other successful experiences instead of capitalising by convincing people he’s the way to success. I would be a lier if I said i didnt benefit anything from his videos because I changed my view in life a bit and I started finding joy in simplicity just like we did as kids and that Made me feel he’s more legit. unfortunately his content is always mixed up with red pills so I wouldnt blame him for his new video format now which is all about less input more output and attracting red pill bros

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the1knobs•

respect

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Georgeoverthere•

I have come to realize that Hamza's views on competition are very misleading. While I understand that it can be a powerful tool to overcome insecurities, the amount of stress and anxiety that it can bring is not always worth it. Also it can damage relationships, lead to burnout, and make you lose sight of the bigger picture of why you are striving to become better.

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its_KAMARA•

Respect for your thoughts man and courage to put it out there. Haven't been on the Discord for a while but loved your energy while you were with us on the Mod team. Always happy to have a chat about our moderation and feel free to DM me on Discord (username: notkamara)

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abdullahzafar697•

Nobody is 100% accurate, Take lessons that you think will be helpful and leave the rest if you don't agree with them.

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I found Hamzas channel a few years ago on YT and despite thinking he was a bit of a narcissist, agreed with his message at the start, but then after seeing him start to make videos actively gloating how he was making money hand over fist from the very people he was claiming to try and help made me realise this guy is just toxic and self absorbed as anything.

I remember at the time when he literally had 1 on 1 video calls with him, charging like $500 an hour (several times more than a clinical psychologist), to have a little pep talk from an overzealous child.

Guy is as big a fraud I’ve ever seen lol, I don’t even follow his shit, just saw this pop up on Reddit front page. Feel sorry for the dweebs that worship this dope

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chose00•

member at the time when he literally had 1 on 1 video calls with him, charging like $500 an hour (several times more than a clinical psychologist), to have a little pep talk from an overzealous child.

the funny thing is that he himself said that he was smoking pot and looking how to make money then make up with this yt idea and hired his video editor. how messed up its while he is claiming to want to help while at the same time overcharing them crazy amounts

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ApeMindFitness•

I told my buddy this 2 years ago because he was watching a Hamza video, but I’ve been Reddit red pill aware for 5-6y. I told him that I feel like I’m being marketed to, and he agreed he felt like his fans were like a cult.

Never idolize anyone. I am a Christian and I believe that Gods laws were meant to protect us from hurting ourselves, not because we needed to be obedient to someone.

The red pill exposes important truths about the world that aren’t talked about as much, but there are some who will twist the message and profit from it. That’s the biggest problem with the red pill these days. It used to be a community with lots of cross talk about theories and such. But people like Andrew tate and Hamza ruined it by popularizing it for monetary gain.

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elloEd•

I don’t follow this sub or know who Hamza is, but I still wanted to chime in and say thanks for making this post, it is very well written. I don’t know about Hamza specifically but I can definitely relate. The entire redpill culture thing has shifted and blown up way out of control. I remember the early days of the actual r/theredpill subreddit being just a safe space for men to be vulnerable and support each other with advice on how to be better men. Now its all this alpha male, entrepreneur “if you’re not a millionaire with a Hugh Hefner body count, you’re a failure” bullshit. It’s gotten way too polluted with new members along with the philosophy itself. One of the biggest rules they had on that sub was to never mention the red pill to anyone. They made that rule specifically because of that reason. At first it was great to read and take advice from all of these forums and content, but now I tell my friends who are going down that phase to just watch out with indulging too much of that stuff because it really will brainwash you. It’s okay to a degree but if all your feed consists of is Andrew Tate and Fresh and Fit clips, that’s an issue.

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He’s a grifter like 99% of the self help community

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Findingoutmore252•

Thanks for sharing this, interesting perspective

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