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Nitious

Is the IX event the worst event yet?

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Don't get me wrong, I enjoy the story and crossover weapons and costumes. But for an event running for a whole month with 3 potential banners with 6 costumes and weapons you won't be able to OB through quests or wishlist, the overall rewards are very very very weak.

9000 gems is nothing. Yes we will get more through other events like crash and normal logins and the potential Ch4 for FF7 story. But even then if it's a total 15000, this is not even enough to get one of the costumes guaranteed.

I think costumes being limited is already FOMO enough and them making limited weapons with a gacha that has no guarantees outside of the mid stamp system is a very bad move.

If they want to continue with this kind of limited time weapon crap, they'll have to make special stamp cards for those banners. Like guaranteed 5 stars every 2 stamps or something. Pulls aren't exactly cheap and the last EX card feels bad even for whales. 6 stamps for guaranteed 4 star feels like a joke. You should at least have some kind of pity for the banner weapons if they expect people to OB6-10 6 of them in 30 days.

Before the strategy for people might have been to pull on stuff they need like elemental coverage. Now I feel like saving for limited banners is the meta for F2P and low spenders while hoping to pick up non-limited weapons from free pulls and the wishlist during limited banners.

Posted Nov 14, 2023, 12:29 PM UTC

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HecticHooligan•

What story? There were two cutscenes at the beginning and then it was just a progression of the same fight 10 times. Maybe I'm missing something.

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boywiththebluehat•

They're doing the events in the exact same fashion as Nier Rein. They copy/paste the same fight x times and increase the numbers up until that doesn't make it harder just impossible, and then sometimes in highest difficulties they'll make you build a certain way, or play manual and only attack during a certain time, or eventually you just get strong enough to auto complete everything.

I don't think it's going to change much, they've been doing the same shit in Rein for years, plenty of opportunity to change and they haven't.

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desperatevices•

So much this. It's literally a copy/paste job from rein.

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SoulIgnis•

APPARENTLY there was supposed to be more story cutscenes but they are mysteriously aren't there. i got this info from a tweet so i haven't verified it but it would make sense considering the event delay...

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Majinkaboom•

Me to im like I have the beginning of a story only and no announcement on when more of that coming.....is this game meant to be played daily?

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bernaldsandump•

This is a red flag imo. Remember we had like 5 or 6 story parts for the beach event… and then nothing for ffix crossover? Seems like development or creative assets are drying up

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vxsapphire•

They're supposedly releasing more of the story with the next two banner drops. So this thursday and next thursday if the translation was correct.

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themisheikaFinal Heaven•

"supposedly" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here ngl...

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Majinkaboom•

So english players they don't care too much??? Still waiting on them to translate Barret voice!!!

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FreddieFredster92•

It’s one event…

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VictorSant•

the event will last for 1 month, they probably spread the content through all of it.

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Majinkaboom•

Would have been nice to add that to the notes

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themisheikaFinal Heaven•

I agree, esp since they remembered to mention the next story chapter being prepared for release in the latest patch notes

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Actarius•

I’ve lost all hope to OB10 any weapons as a F2P. I only summon for the in battle skin

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Dog4theKid•

Maxing out anything should never be in a f2p "hopes". That is really for people who buy currency. You could also save enough to gtd, but that's a hella lot of hoarding.

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VictorSant•

I’ve lost all hope to OB10 any weapons as a F2P

OB10 is cool but the true target should OB6, wich is totally doable for free with wish list.

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NitiousOP•

Yeah. The issue here is we don't get the FF9 weapons in wishlist.

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VictorSant•

FFIX weapons are totally skips for low/non-spender exactly for that reason, just grab whatever you get willing going through to get the costume if pulling and be happy with the extra bonus for the event.

People with low/no spending shouldn't care that much for weapons on banners. Go for costumes and get desired weapons through wishlist while pulling for costumes. That should be the best MO to get through comfortably.

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NitiousOP•

I mean, if it was know that they will drop actually limited banners, I would've skipped the last couple of normal ones and got Tifa to OB6 for the big buff. But they dropped the whole limited stuff out of nowhere.

Yeah, for the future it's either save for limited and get stuff through wishlist or fully skip limited except for costumes.

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ObtuseMongooseAbuse•

Where are people getting this information? I haven't seen any notice mentioning that we won't be able to get parts for the weapons in future banners.

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VictorSant•

The banner news is saying that limited weapon can't be put into wish list neither put on that weapon quest daily that pops out.

The only way to upgrade limited weapons is with character specific part, that have quite limited supply.

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NitiousOP•

By reading the actual banner news.

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Xamuca_•

I did 2 pulls on the banner because I don't want any of the costumes. Git lucky and got 2 Tags 5* but only a 4* version of Cloud.

You can and should use your weapon parts to upgrade only those limited weapons.

Even if you get only a 3* version you can upgrade it with the weapon parts.

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OMGWTHBBQ11•

The drop rate should be higher for these limited weapons...

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NoSolace_NoPeace•

I was gonna ask if OB6 is really what we should be aiming for as F2P/low spender since the gains after OB6 seem minimal? Or is there a different reason

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FargusDingus•

OB6 upgrades the C-ability, and after that the stat gains aren't great. But you should be working on OB6 by the wishlist, not by chain pulling on banner to hit it immediately. At least IMO. Be selective about your OB targets too.

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Immediate_Horror_178•

Maybe long term but everything seems beatable with OB1-3 right now.

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guiltl3ss•

Maybe the true OB10 was the friends we made along the way.

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SephirothSama•

Same as me. OB10 for me will be the long run

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desperatevices•

Being a f2p you should ALWAYS keep expectations in check.

Especially in squeenix gachas.

Not every game is DFFOO.

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HZLFC•

I have some fairly high, despite being very casual F2P for most of the game (only started getting serious about playing a week ago). Mostly because the tickets love to dump Red weapons on me. Narrators voice: he's used Red exactly once. Doubt I'll ever see an ob10, I'm not putting money in.

Lucias from this event is the highest though, at least they made that one easy.

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OMGWTHBBQ11•

They will increase the amount of character weapon vouchers eventually no worries.

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TimeRocker•

The game has only been out two months. Did you honestly expect to max out a weapon in such a short period of time?

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Ultimafax•

story?

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Dartsboard97Zack•

The big BS is the the limited weapons of you spend 69k crystals and get 0 pulls like I did (aside from the 6 stamp) there's no wishing for it in the future either. Pretty over how this game handled it's "Pity" system.

Honestly I'm what world is a guarantee 4 star a reward? It just shows how terrible their drop rates are and how greedy they are.

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Valerium2k•

Thats the thing other then the 5 star weapon and costume stamps the rest of the stamps are all complete and utter trash nothing is remotely good in there.

A guaranteed single grindstone chunk, really? You get like 5-7 of those from spending 45 energy.

It really needs a rework put some mythril ore and memory exchange tickets or something in there, something you could always use more of. While they're at it put a actual pity system in there.

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Dry-Cartographer6470•

Yep, the 4 star reward stamp it is a dumb joke, it should be replaced with another warranted weapon pity, this alone would make people spend with a feeling of achievement, instead of shafting...

If you have a game with a OB10 greedy system, please AT THE VERY LEAST give a secure road of 3/10 of the banner weapon.

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Immediate_Horror_178•

That’s on you, spending 69 k on a banner is not something a f2p should ever do. The right f2p way is to gtfo at 12 stamps and wishlist the weapon on the future if you didn’t get it to ob1. Of course you shouldn’t pull for the weapon in a limited banner as f2p since you won’t be able to wishlist it. Get 1 costume if you really want it knowing it’s not a wise use of resources in respect to increasing your power if you want, but f2p focus right now should be acquiring a costume+ good weapon kit for every element and possibly double that for matk and patk. You should have gems saved for when earth weapon drops not for non elemental stuff.

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tylersadx•

having to pay to make the game fun is a tactic modern game developers need to drop. expeditiously.

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Immediate_Horror_178•

Im against gacha practices in general. But to me it’s more fun to have limited resources and spend them wisely and tactically to clear everything than the whale experience of throwing money to the screen and beating everything without tactics or limitations. You just have to accept that you won’t be able to pull on every banner and have to choose what to “buy” with a limited walled of f2p gems.

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NasdT•

"Join whale or quit" that's the game philosophy.

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VictorSant•

I think this game isn't going to survive past 6month if the trends continue.

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A f2p saving for 1-2month without summon should be enough to obo10 any weapon they wish

hahahahahaha

In other games people claim that a single PITY should be 1-2 months saving, here people think they are entitled all they way to a fully maxed item within 1-2 months.

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but isn't the case with this game

Point me a single game that use a similar system (requiring multiple dupes to max a unit) that gives enough for a maxed unit of your choice every 1-2 months, really, sometimes people on this sub are straight delusional.

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DreamersLost1990•

Ill wait with my 🍿🍿🍿

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Dissidiamenace•

Alot of them actually do.. kofas.. dissidia probably the best example since once you get a dupe you can use stones to take it further. Street fighter duel if you save you can get character pretty far in that time frame. Im just not one for saving these games though i use and either get or dont.

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VictorSant•

dissidia probably the best example since once you get a dupe you can use stones to take it further

Dissidia uses a different system where you don't NEED dupes (you can use them, but they are just an option, not a requirement), you get SOMETHING ELSE that is not dupes to cover for that.

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Street fighter duel if you save you can get character pretty far in that time frame

You can MAX them with only pulling dupes?

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Dissidiamenace•

Thats the only way you will get limited rare characters on sfd besides this stone they came out with recently that counts as a dupe you can get 1 monthly or pay $100 a piece for them lol.

King of fighter all stars i maxed lot of characters in two weeks you would have enough rubies to get them at least a3. Which made them very viable. 2 banners i got extremely lucky and maxed a character from saving till next banner dropped.

Honestly i think db legends has worst rates i ever seen in my life you can spend 100k gems and not get a single copy which why i quit.

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NitiousOP•

Yeah the "game will die" stuff is dumb. The game is doing very well financially. It's more about keeping the game fair and still financially profitable at the same time.

I think they went a little too overboard on the monetization with the limited weapon stuff. It was fine before that and made a lot of money outside the gem refund banner.

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There are very few game needing that many dupes to max out units. That's the issue here. There's no real comparison but if you just scale other games resources to to what FF7EC needs, we end up not getting much even if it looks like we get plenty of pulls.

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If you look at the 150 pulls we get on the normal banner - sounds like a ton. But without a guaranteed 5star like other games have with 10+1 pulls, and the giant pool of characters and weapons. You end up getting nothing unless you get lucky. Only 30% of the weapons seem useful at all and then you have to get it on a character you use.

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Same goes for pities. Character based games usually give out a pity a month with 50/50 being a thing on featured stuff. But the banners run for like 3-4 weeks. We have a new banner every 2 weeks at most with 2 costumes and new weapons. You can maybe pity 1 costume each month and for weapons it's just pure RNG - OB0 sadly isn't enough if you watch to play higher end content. It is possible. But not fun.

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VictorSant•

I think they went a little too overboard on the monetization with the limited weapon stuff

I agree with that.

If they were going that route, they could at last give some facilitation that non-limited banner doesn't have. Such as giving banner weapon copies instead of random guaranteeds on the 6th and 12th stamp that aren't costumes.

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NasdT•

John 3:16

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VictorSant•

RemindMe! May 14th, 2024

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Dry-Cartographer6470•

Well I have finished all content of Collab event, and technically everything on the whole game, I've been enjoying Ever Crisis a lot, but I'm waiting for more content because I don't have anything to do right now lol, for example when you finished Crisis Dungeons reclearing them it's basically pointless.

The triple Waltz boss looks amazing, and it's fun to fight, but the exchange Shop it doesn't offer something else once you buy the main stuff, I would like more weapon Shards, specially for the actual banner.

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SephirothSama•

They really need to rethink their approach to the dungeons. Not having a reason to spend the tickets is bad. At least let us convert them into stamina potions

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Majinkaboom•

Been out foe a couple months still treadmill think the game is finished

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HeavensRoyalty⭐️Honorary Shinra SOLDIER⭐️•

If yall are not happy with it, then write an inquiry in the game and convey it properly.

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Dartsboard97Zack•

I did do that and they got the generic we will mention your feedback to the relevant teams.

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HeavensRoyalty⭐️Honorary Shinra SOLDIER⭐️•

Trust me. It's working, and the statistics are showing, but moving forward, let's do what OP did and convey how we feel properly because those are much louder than most people think. I love ff7 IP, and I want this game to do well, so fingers crossed.

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VictorSant•

Trust me. It's working

*Sephiroth's with his new face nodding in agreement*

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NitiousOP•

Already told them that as someone who's like 2K deep, this banner stops me from spending any further. 3 cards with only OB 1 and OB 3 feels horrible. And cards past 3 are just bad and going 70 pulls without a 5 star outside of the guarantee at 20€ for a 10er is insane. I didn't regret spending so far. But I don't think I can keep up with rates this bad on overpowered limited weapons.

So yeah, I sent a ticket day 1 after the whole "not wishlistable" notice.

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HeavensRoyalty⭐️Honorary Shinra SOLDIER⭐️•

2k deep is cute I have no doubt the game will get better, not because of their generosity but because they'll be forced to make it better, so things will start looking better sooner than later. Have faith and try to have fun with friends it's a lot easier to be depressed with a group of friends instead of playing alone, lol. If you're not already, then join the unofficial discord

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NitiousOP•

Of course, 2k isn't as much as the people who OB10 everything spend, still a decent chunk of money for a 2 months old game. I'm already in the discord and did help with some carries for Iron Giant.

I do hope the game gets better. As I said, I've told them in an inquiry that having limited weapons feels bad. Hopefully, they can just add them to normal pool and inly make costumes the FOMO item.

The issue with the limited weapons is that they have massively powercrept what we had before. OB1 Zidane does as much damage as OB6(maybe 10, can't recall) Apocalypse. If you get unlucky on these banners, you're screwed without wishlisting them later on.

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HeavensRoyalty⭐️Honorary Shinra SOLDIER⭐️•

I'm sorry. I was just playfully jabbing lol I apologize. I'm personally not too happy with the state of the game atm, but I will be here in hopes it gets better.

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Panxma•

With 9k gem and being a Free to play user. Some might not even get enough stamp for the first row because of the low stamp rate.

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Bazaritchie•

Starting to enjoy less and less of the game at the moment. Playing since day 1. Even made a second account.

First one I got the first and second season pass and the extra gear ticket plus a 3800 gem pack cos I was one stamp off Barret's gear at the time. Second one one I only got the 2 season passes.

As of right now I'll probably play less and less, there's another thread here talking about if it wasn't FF would you even play and I 100% wouldn't be on this if it wasn't. The events are alright but nothing amazing and the huge amounts of incompetence of the Devs and lack of any understanding when it come to the entire compensation rewards they've handed out previously just shows what's to come. I'll try stick with it a bit longer but I don't see it lasting but sure as heck won't be putting the few pennies I have on it anymore.

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NitiousOP•

I'm still enjoying it. But I usually support games I enjoy financially.

But this banner feels like I'm not getting anything of worth by spending. I think outside of the boosts/BP I will stop thanks to limited weapons. If 400€ on the Tifa/Cloud banner isn't even enough to OB6 one of the weapons. Might as well just play with OB0 and spend somewhere else.

Not going to stop playing but will take the game casually. I was planning on making this my main game in terms of disposable income, but whatever I have for gacha monthly is not enough for EC. The amount they ask for feels like MiHoYo whaling.

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Bazaritchie•

I pretty much hate gachas lol. Never taken the time to actually play any of them til now, like I said only cos it was FF. But saying that after going through it the past couple months it's not as bad as I previously seen gachas in general.

Actually started a Genshin 2 weeks ago, can't really compare them fairly but Genshin just feels better. Prob cos I just started playing it though might be the same case down the line

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Blev088•

I'm skipping all the banners for this event because of the limited availability, it's just not worth it. The event itself isn't spectacular. I already have what I want from this event in terms of rewards, at this point I'm just clearing the dailies to bank currency.

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khalavaster•

The lack of story was disappointing right off the bat. It's a month and not a week and it's essentially the same as all the other events. And we are waiting for them to push the same thing 2 more times.

Also I guess I am spoiled. I log in once in a while to Cookie Run Kingdom to tens of thousands of gems. If it's a big crossover event, catching up would net me almost 60k crystals so it's pretty comfy pulling. Plus the fact that there's guaranteed currency earned from pulling that helps to increase the "OB" 90% of the cookies (equivalent to EC weapons)

This game is extreeeeeeemely stingy compared lol. I love FFIX but I already FOMO'd into the halloween banner and I guess I just sit out for the rest of the month. I've bought the passes a couple times but not anymore. 1 week is absurd.

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NitiousOP•

Yeah, them not telling us beforehand that there are going to be actual limited weapons is the biggest issue here.

If I knew we would get OP crossover weapons, I also would've skipped Halloween and Aerith/Matt before that.

But people dumped a lot of gems feeling safe by how they handled all weapons until now. Then they drop powercrept good weapons while only giving people enough pull to not feel bad but not enough to actually get anything.

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No_Main6631•

I have liked it so far. I got Tifa Amarant clothes, out of crystal now but no big deal, I start to save for christmas.

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LordLorek•

Are we not assuming that it will be like every other event that has more cutscenes/stages/rewards when part 2 comes out? And if there is a part 3, this event could potentially have even more stuff than normal if they also update the event for part 3.

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NitiousOP•

6 more stages 100 crystals each and a new shop don't matter. The first clear gems aren't enough to pull and the Vivi weapon is the worst free weapon we have as has been shown by other people, even at +20 is has worse stats than the Iron Giant free weapons at OB10. If they dump another 9000 crystals for each part, that's at least something. People would at least be able to get 1 costume guaranteed, but so far, I doubt that will happen.

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drkaugumon•

How did this thread go from the clickbait title of "is this thr worst event yet" to a totally different topic about "well we don't get enough gyms to guarentee a costume"?

No. The event is fine. The boss is meh, the weapons are ok, the costumes are ok, its a 3pt even so we are going to get more then usual, they gave is more copies via grinding to make it MORE f2p friendly then usual for the farmable weapon. If anything id day this is one of the better events. Certainly better then the Halloween one at the very least.

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colaptic2•

As a F2P player, I've been ignoring the banner weapons. I only pull for gear that I like, and hope I get my wishlist weapons.

You just have to accept that FOMO is part of the game if you're not a whale.

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Majinkaboom•

Seems like a good event but Sam's freaking fight over and over and limited story.

I mean if they made like interesting fights like combine the bosses like Shiva iron giant fight together etc. Added more backdrops like fight on ship maybe fight on another ship in different area. Multiple bosses for events with different money. currency.

Event too long should be wrapping up at end of week but they stretching shyt out!!!

They really playing with people intelligence...having u pay all this money for stuff yet they don't even got proper story for any mode!!!! Wtf get to work squareenix!!

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seighart_11•

Do dailies, do some co-ops, clear contents I can clear with my f2p team, hoard gems until anniversary and chill :) glad I have dffoo as my main gacha

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Viewtiful_Dante•

It is absurd and infuriating. Grind grind grind... ah, and also a little bit of grind.

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Dash_Ex•

It’s a game, they are a business looking to make profits. They don’t care about people claiming they have absolutely debilitating “FOMO”, and why should they? The whole point is if you want to pull on everything then you pay for it. If you aren’t willing to spend then just take what you can get.

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DreamersLost1990•

Popcorn Drama anyone? 🍿🍿🍿

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