/r/ireland accuses "pro-Israelis" (read: Jews) of "having an EXTREMELY disproportionate control over world media (including social), banking, entertainment and politics" and "using it for evil."
archive.is/OL52MPosted Nov 26, 2023, 12:54 PM UTC
11
archive.is
The concept of anti-semitism is one of the great gas lighting acts of human history.
In response to a question of whether anti-Semitism is justified -
Depends on the context.
Fucking hell.
Ireland, Spain... Catholic countries and outrageous anti-Semitism, name a better duo.
52
"it didn't happen and we'll do it again" vibes
35
I've read similar things from the Irish quite often. Regarding I/P, that may be an emanation of their history, but the quote above is just classic Antisemitism. Is it that prevalent in Ireland?
30
I’m converting to Judaism from an Irish Catholic upbringing, and I still have cousins in Belfast. Yes the antisemitism is that prevalent. One of my cousins came to the states for St Patty’s Day parade weekend and she didn’t want anything to do with me now that she knows I’m converting. She had visited multiple times before and we hung out a lot, but since she has only said a few words
41
I'm sorry to hear about your cousin.
If it's more prevalent than the usual run-of-the-mill European antisemitism, what do you think is the cause?
14
It’s mostly in the Catholic community in Ireland. I think it stems largely from that, and the IRA. Although they aren’t “actively” a terrorist org, they are/have been closely aligned with groups like the PLO and Hamas that have spread antisemitic thought through the community. The IRA/Sinn Fein pull a lot of weight culturally in Ireland as well
28
שיהיה שלום עליך
3
Not exactly an answer about antisemitism specifically, but with specific regard to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, the UK definitely affects things. Ireland isn't exactly a big UK fan, and when Israel started to drift towards the UK as an ally, Ireland and the IRA didn't take kindly to this. The IRA also views themselves similarly to the PLO. This video gives a good summary about Ireland's relationship with the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.
3
It's anecdotal, but I saw antisemitism tossed around SUPER casually in Ireland. At one point my family was in a cab in Dublin, and the cabbie asked where we're from. When we told him New York, he responded, "oh, I love New York! Great city. Except all those damn Jew landlords, right? Bastards."
We sat uncomfortably for the rest of the ride.
12
That's fresh, coming from, you know... Ireland.
23
That comment was thankfully removed, this one however is up:
This is an excellent example of people being completely ignorant of what antisemitism is, and how engrained Christianity is in society.
The Irish Prime Minister, referring to a Jewish child kidnapped by terrorists, states that she was "lost" and then "found", references the Parable of the Prodigal Son, a story from the Christian Bible wherein a sinning son squanders his father's wealth, needing to return hat-in-hand.
And when Jews raise their discomfort with this reference, we're shouted down.
18
I understand the northern Irishmen's point of view more and more.
6
The Narcissist's Prayer:
That didn't happen.
And if it did, it wasn't that bad.
And if it was, that's not a big deal.
And if it is, that's not my fault.
And if it was, I didn't mean it.
And if I did, you deserved it.
2
Reminder: Please do not vote or comment in linked threads or comment chains. Thanks!
Also, consider using reddit.com/report to inform reddit's own staff directly.
I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.
1
[removed]
1
Added context is this is in a thread about the Irish PM tweeting that a little Irish-Jewish girl was “lost and now found” when she was abducted and kidnapped by hamas terrorists whilst they went on a killing spree.
Some argue he was referencing the Bible with his wording. I don't know.
Yeah I read that it had to do with the story of the prodigal son, which makes it make even less sense.
I see. I'm not familiar with that IP.
It could be that he was referencing Amazing Grace. I actually think that if that's true, it's problematic for me. That song, and other similar themes in the New Testament, are about finding "the Truth" in Christianity. The implication in those prayers is that being Christian is the way to salvation.
To link that back to the abductions, where a whole bunch of Jews and other non-Christians who have been kidnapped, it's really disrespectful to their religious beliefs to use that imagery.