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Starlink now applying for experimental license.

News

https://www.pcmag.com/news/spacex-aims-to-test-cellular-starlink-system-with-840-satellites

"It’s not the first time SpaceX has filed an application to conduct a test via the proposed cellular Starlink system. In October, the company also made a separate filing to conduct a similar test over a 60-day period starting in December. But the application faced resistance from AT&T and the Rural Wireless Association, with both arguing SpaceX should have made the request to the FCC’s Office of Engineering and Technology through an experimental license. "

"The new application from SpaceX does just that. The company is targeting a launch of the cellular Starlink service for next year with the goal of operating the technology over a total of 7,500 satellites. But concerns about the satellites generating radio interference with other carriers and satellite companies seems to be delaying SpaceX from receiving FCC clearance. "

Come on Abel we are cheering you on to get that deal done!

Posted Dec 1, 2023, 6:59 AM UTC

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CartmanAndCartmanS P 🅰️ C E M O B•

Go fuck yourself Elon.

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CaptainJackCrypto12S P 🅰️ C E M O B•

Laughed way to hard at this. Am i overinvested? Fuck yeahhhhhhhh

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SeanKDalton•

It's been enjoyable watching the public turn on him, the US government be like "Why are we in a position to be so dependent on this guy....we need to fix that," Twitter implode after he was forced to follow through on buying it, Tesla start to skid off the road, and now this desperate scramble to simultaneously catch up and disrupt the legitimate future market-leader of this space (at least from a technological and regulatory perspective). Helping stick another thorn in this hapless oligarch's keister is certainly not one of the benefits I had even though of when I invested in ASTS, but I'm certainly enjoying it.

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4SPCEOP•

Haha well said !

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DiscHashDisc•

G. F. Y.

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Puzzled-Gazelle-7003•

I don't understand the turn on Elon, care to explain plz

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SeanKDalton•

Look up the headlines involving him for the past 12 months in particular. The guy's an awful human-being and is, quite frankly, a tumor on American society.

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Puzzled-Gazelle-7003•

I'm sorry I don't look at headlines and form my opinions on that. Could you actually give me details of why he is an awful human?

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Lamamilker•

He just salty that Elon bought Twitter and made it so the republican side was no longer censored. Basically the left sided media doesn’t like Elon anymore and this guy shares that view.

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CartmanAndCartmanS P 🅰️ C E M O B•

He made fun of fauci. He made many anti semetic comments and moreover he’s a republican.

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asignore•

A tumor that single handedly brought on the electrification of modern autos with the first successful American automobile manufacturer in 100 years, self landing rockets, global satellite broadband internet and battery powered homes.

Are you for real? Are you willing to ignore all of these things because you don’t like the content of his tweets?

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Prize-Cardiologist-9•

Elon didn't do any of those, his daddy's money along with thousands of brilliant minds did. Elon couldn't code a simple "Hello World" script even if his life depended on it.

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GurgleBarf•

Rent free

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winged_victory•

I don't think you know what this means lol

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Warm_Flamingo_2438•

The fact that ASTS has to use SpaceX rockets because they are basically a monopoly makes me very uncomfortable when they are trying to undermine the business model. There just seems to be so much potential for anti-competitive fuckery and Musk has like zero ethics.

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sfeicht•

I wish ASTS would use Rocketlab to launch, since I'm invested in both companies!

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jonnyozero3•

Probably need to wait for Neutron to be operational and proven?

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sfeicht•

Yeah I don't know what the current payload capacity is.

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SeanKDalton•

I like Rocketlab and almost did what I did with ASTS with them, but they did just have a rocket explode not too long ago.....

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DonCorletony•

Lol a rocket failure just means that they will be even better in the future

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adarkuccio•

Elon might be an ass but all the engineers working at spacex won't be so stupid to risk and act against asts, even an investigation about it would be detrimental for spacex, so even tho I'm not feeling 100% safe that they won't do anything that stupid, in theory, chances are they won't do anything that stupid...

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p_mud•

“Basically a monopoly”? You don’t understand the definition of “monopoly” obviously.

It sucks when our hatred towards someone or something impacts our logical minds. In this scenario, regardless of the above comment being right or wrong, you have to wonder: “What does ATT&T benefit from initiating this”? Did they do it for noble reasons?

I want innovation and want the people who can do it, do it. …regardless of their (idiotic) thoughts and views.

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No-Physics-4494•

I would be very uncomfortable with any other launch partner. No, I do not think Musk is going to fuck with our launch. Makes no sense. Can you name one anti competitive thing he has done?

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Warm_Flamingo_2438•

At this point, I wouldn’t be comfortable with any other launch partner either. That doesn’t mean I’m 100% comfortable with SpaceX. Especially when they are trying to directly compete with our tech.

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trowser_snakes•

Doesn't make sense. New competition in wireless space lowers prices for all consumers. If the weak models die, then this is capitalism and we all win.

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marvingardens13•

Elon is why I significantly scaled back my investment portfolio in ASTS. I can’t ignore the likelihood of SpaceX/starlink playing fuckery behind the scenes and slowing bureaucratic processes for starlink to catch-up.

Furthermore, anything Elon touches has a massive fan-base with built-in marketing. How can a basic ASTS Friday tweet compete with an Elon announcement?

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SeanKDalton•

Congrats on proving out the whole point of why they’re being so aggressive going after this business and taking Space-X public; to stifle ASTS funding from their stock offering and give partners pause. And you’re playing right into it when being in this sub should have taught you better.

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marvingardens13•

My piddly investment is meaningless in that discourse. And while I still hold, I just don’t hold the quantity that makes me feel like I have to convince people (or really, convince myself) why ASTS must be a winner.

I took myself out of a situation where I was telling myself, “I can’t afford to be wrong.” Which was creating massive blind spots in my critical analysis of the opportunity.

For everyone here, I hope it’s a raging success. In the meantime, I have my money on both horses rather than just ASTS.

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No-Physics-4494•

Y’all need to stop worrying about competition. There was always going to be some. We have first mover advantage and the best tech.

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4SPCEOP•

Oh I agree with you ! This is just to keep folks informed. As well as I would be pretty upset if Starlink gets the final FCC approved before ASTS does!

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hooper359•

Does anyone know whether the current starlink satellites are already capable of delivering this service at 5G speeds to unmodified phones? Or will they have to design and launch all new ones specifically for this?

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BarlimochimodatorS P 🅰️ C E M O B•

current not capable

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1ess_than_zer0•

V2 minis will be capable and that’s what Starlink has been deploying recently on the Falcon Heavies. Full version of V2 can only be launched with Starship and that’s been delayed big time.

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Alive-Bid9086•

They asked to test. My guess is that the capability is there, otherwhise there has been fewer satellites with 5G capabilities in orbit.

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Whereas_Dull•

From what I understand they aimed to achieve text this year and were unable to. It’s looking like their satellites aren’t nearly capable of supporting that many users at once. Still seems ASTS is ahead of the curb on that tech and when the constellation is up would have way more coverage and GB per month per user. Bandwidth will be an issue for them and imagine way more expensive

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Alive-Bid9086•

No permit - No service.

Please explain how you came to your conclusion.

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ziptested•

The request was filed to expand testing to 180 days. SpaceX has now a permission to launch and test for 10 days Starlink satellites with direct-to-cellular payload. They are targeting Dec 10 for the first launch.

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PeeLoosyS P 🅰️ C E M O B - O G•

Dec 10 launch, deorbit by Dec 31. 💀

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4SPCEOP•

Wait ... Are you saying it's the same launch as the space force launch ? Must be another launch very close to it! But that would be something!!!

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ziptested•

No, it's Starlink Group 8-1 launch from Vandenberg.

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Key_Law4834•

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