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Why _____ Will Win

General Discussion

Jake. I forsee him winning next immunity for the first time, after being a terrible individual immunity player, playing his idol to save Julie, voting out Austin.

Then he wins final immunity, decides to go up against fire making challenge against Dee, wins.

Then sitting next to Katurah who has done nothing, and Julie who for some reason was labeled this big threat, but I don’t think after jake doing all that he’d lose.

He got played for a few votes in a row, but can argue this to his advantage that he was ALWAYS the backup vote. His name was always out there, yet they let him make it to the final 5 and given a chance.

Is this the only scenario he wins? Possibly. Will it happen tonight? Yes.

TL;DR: Boston

Posted Dec 20, 2023, 2:24 PM UTC

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sulfaterTai•

Austin seems like a dead man walking, what would be Jakes motivation for not taking him to the end?

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starlinghanesRyan•

How is Austin a dead man walking? He has led, or at least been involved, in all of the major decisions since the merge, except for this most recent one.

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sulfaterTai•

He was the only one left out of last vote, and Julie and Dee have more claims to any of his moves than he does.

He’s squandered so much opportunity that and made the wrong move in front of the jury enough that even if he can make it to the end without sitting beside Dee or Julie, I think Jake takes it over him easily, especially if he can make an idol play or beat fire.

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compstomp66David Wright•

We don’t even know if he was out of the last vote. In the above scenario Dee wouldn’t be in the final tribal council. It’s my opinion that Julie hasn’t played that much better of a game than Austin. If any. I also think he’ll do better at FTC than her.

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sulfaterTai•

I think if Julie and Austin are in the final three, it’s almost guaranteed Austin is a 0 vote finalist, maybe he gets the 1 vote in a 7-1-0 vote as is tradition in the new era

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MalcolmMSB•

He’s played one of the worst games ever seen while in a power position

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starlinghanesRyan•

Oof don’t check out this guys comment history.

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Bmagic_OP•

it’s interesting that julie is the more resounding person to vote out, i didn’t feel that way. maybe i’ve missed something but besides austin’s last two tribals, i feel like he’s had a much stronger game than julie, i guess julie is closer with more people though.

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sulfaterTai•

The edit is definitely showing us a lot of Austin, but they also showed us a lot of Xander in 41 and production made the edit seem like Xander stood a shot a winning, but in reality he was a total goat who had no shot of winning at any point.

To me it feels like Austin is getting the Xander edit. He’s a player that production knows casual viewers will love and want to root for, so he gets artificially boosted in the edit, but if you pay attention to his moves and his relationships, he’s got nothing that makes him stand out.

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jwormyk•

Austin has zero shot at winning.

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Punstoppabal•

Agree. He was in such a great position with the powers he held, and if he'd played them or held onto them, I suppose, in a better way, I could see his arc being a more full game player.

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Trevsmoker•

Yeah, Austin completely blew his game. Trusted too many/ the wrong people, gave his idol away for not a great reason, and then when he had the chance to partially fix his mistake, he didn’t take the risk.

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AprilTrain•

Drew had an interesting take on this in his exit interview on RHAP. Essentially, the tribe saw Emily as a huge threat following the Bruce blindside. Then in the next tribal, Julie successfully played an idol and voted out “a huge threat”, Emily. Regardless of whether this was Dee’s move or Julie’s move, the jury’s perspective is that Julie made a huge move. I think that’s why the tribe continues to gun for Julie.

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Bmagic_OP•

good point. i guess because of how i’ve thought about it as always dee’s move because of how it went down, but that isn’t necessarily the case.

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TheMossyCastle•

Based on a Jury Q&A Bruce said he wishes he was able to hang out with a member of the F3 at ponderosa. I’m putting money that that person is Jake

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Dr_Sully•

It's definitely Katurrah. She and Bruce were super tight when they were on together.

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oceanbri•

lollll

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Pixilatedlemon•

Lol I think he thought so

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kurtis939799•

I was surprised they kept this in the article actually I had the same take as you and it felt like a major spoiler

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Bruce seemed pretty annoyed at Jake after he was celebrating Kellie's boot. Not to mention Jake flips on Bruce AND is one of the people who let slip about his idol. I really think Bruce is talking about Julie, someone who he said repeatedly that he respects.

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mindiz24•

I mean he was celebrating that he was safe, not like personally towards Kellie leaving

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“Whoa! Sorry, I mean whoa.”

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d1s3nchant3d•

Didn't they have that nice moment on the beach where Bruce said he was proud of him becoming a lawyer? Like when Jake hit his lowest, Bruce was the person to comfort him.

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blueberry_3000•

was that a q&a with present-day bruce? bc it’s possible he would say that about katurah so that she could see him in a more relaxed non-game context. he is probably determined to get her to like him lol

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Commonsense110•

I also thought Jake at first but it could be Julie

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AyersRock_92•

Also Drew implies Julie and Jake in F3 in his exit interview with Rob C

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georgephilly1980•

Brice was close with Julie too. I assumed it was Julie

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ITickleBlackKids231Yam Yam•

Really enjoying these Jake fanfics where he suddenly becomes an amazing strategist!

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hipsterdoofus39•

It doesn’t involve going to rocks so I’m not sure it’s realistic

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slash_s_everything•

I actually think he’s a decent strategist and understands the game…it’s just that his execution is atrocious

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NinetyFishAitu Four•

I see him as similar to Kaleb this season for being a good player screwed by their tribe falling apart on them on a season with a dominant OG tribe alliance.

Strategy pretty much on point, but fighting from the bottom left them with few options. Whereas Kaleb was too good socially and played himself out of the game before he could recover, Jake kept himself alive but never had that “if he recovers, he takes over the game” feeling that Kaleb had. Still, Kaleb was the first jury boot (sucks for Sifu) and Jake’s in the final, so.

Those two and Emily are my three picks for returners from this season, definitely the most entertaining. I really enjoyed Bruce too, honestly, even if he’s probably the reason Belo fell apart and handed the game to Reba.

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peachyfuzz78•

I don’t think he’s a horrible strategist I think they’re just executed poorly bc he doesn’t have the right people and hasn’t made many strong relationships with other players. If it was a more personable player like Kaleb asking people to go to rocks I feel like they’d do it

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SWAGB0TTony•

Though his plans haven’t worked, Jake is the only one left besides Dee who has been strategic. He’s actively trying to play the game and make moves, he’s just not good at it lol

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nsmorgan317Mark The Chicken•

If he plays his idol to do anything other than take out Julie or Dee, it’s a bad move.

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He loses sitting next to either of them, so he has his work cut out for him.

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nsmorgan317Mark The Chicken•

Yeah agree. He’s got to take one out at 5 and the other at 4 to have even a remote chance

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Djakob__Unchained•

I’m really holding out for a Jake idol Dee vote, otherwise I don’t see how Dee doesn’t win.

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timmy_wahwah•

I think they put that edit in cuz he does exactly that maybe even wins fire making challenge

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whydoihave2dothis•

I don't care how it happens, I just want Jake to win.

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Bmagic_OP•

agree!

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MFRoyer•

This is where I’m at, too

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Seachelle13o•

Same! After my faves (Emily and Drew) got voted out I’m all in on Jake

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sm175•

I'm in the same boat, if you'd asked me 2 weeks ago I have said he's a 100% a losing finalist. But I don't know- I think he has a chance now, even slim. Dee seems so obvious and they've been playing up Jake's little wins a ton.

I'll be happy either way but to see Jake really scrape his way from having nothing in the game to winning would give me joy.

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GrandMoffmanTarkin•

Jake would be an underdog Cinderella story for sure if that happens. I would be surprised if he has enough jury votes to really sway the majority of the jury

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hayb24•

I’m prepared to having my dreams shattered but dammit I’m fully on the Jake train. I’ll be sweating was it out watching him try to win immunity. He’s my favorite player of the new era. Him and beast mode Jonathan.

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I'm not knocking Jake at all, but why is he your favorite player of the new era?

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hayb24•

He’s most definitely not the best survivor player but dammit he’s certainly trying and I admire his effort. He’s a funny dude and he’s had great one liners throughout the season. Even tho his plans have mostly failed he’s trying not to get dragged along. I just want him to succeed at some big brain idol play to top it off tonight.

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No_Equipment9755•

I respect Jake a lot cause even when he takes a swing and misses, he keeps trying and never sits on his hands and I respect that

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hayb24•

He ain’t no quittah

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WHOA!

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mamaabearr_•

i’m really hoping this happens! i’m just not a fan of anyone else in the final 5. dee & julie both rub me the wrong way (i can’t put my finger on exactly why) and austin let his game play slip away the closer he got to dee.

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Specsthegod•

Katurah and Jake over the other 3 100%

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Seachelle13o•

I finally figured out why Dee and Julie rub me the wrong way— they definitely give me “mean popular girls in high school” vibes. The ones that bully the crap out of you but everyone thinks is so nice??? Just my take!

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mamaabearr_•

yes!! totally!! i agree 🙌🏻 i have two daughters who are in high school and i definitely see what you mean

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WinterGreenSerene•

Wtf is this lol. Stop projecting your high school trauma on these people 😂😂😂😂

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Klutzy_Detail7732•

Why are you assuming they bully the crap out of people just because of an edited reality tv show product??? Girl…

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Seachelle13o•

Relax lol- I didnt say they actually bully people- they just give me those vibes 🤣

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TantrumQweenI don't need to be carried, bro•

Jake is not beating Julie lmao

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commanderr01•

Or anyone honestly

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StrivingProsperityYul•

He beats Katurah easily and has a decent chance at beating Austin

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TantrumQweenI don't need to be carried, bro•

He doesn’t easily beat Katurah. I think he has the ability to beat her but he’s not miles above her in any way. If anything, she has had has the better relationships in the game than him and has been in on a lot more votes. He’s also mistakenly trusted her on more than one vote and not learned from it once she blows up his plans.

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StrivingProsperityYul•

Yeah because Jake’s actually trying to play the game. If she actually went along with his plans they would both be much better off.

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commanderr01•

Katurah has potential votes in Kellie and Kendra imo more then Jake has, and I don’t think he can beat Austin (without seeing this final lol)

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SeeingShadows23•

I really don’t get the Jake hype. Maybe it’s just me

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PTBruiserr•

I love Jake because he is trying. Hes made big swings, and had them blown up in his face, he had to resign to going with the flow, but he's still always poking and prodding and trying to find ways to break the game apart.

I think some people forget that in order for someone to be a great survivor cast member, you need other people to support you. It feels like Jake just fell on the wrong side of the line every time, but he's still out there hustling. I respect it.

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NinetyFishAitu Four•

Funny players are fun. Goofy players are fun. Underdogs are fun.

King Jake is all three. Plus he has a fun accent to boot and seems like a really nice dude.

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PTBruiserr•

This exactly!

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SeeingShadows23•

I can def appreciate that. It’s not that I dislike him, it’s more that I just see constant posts about him as everyone’s favorite and he’s like 4th or 5th out of the last 5 for me lol

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Hexegem93•

Honestly

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Hexegem93•

Well this aged badly lol

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dredd-garcia•

boston accent, seems nice, not majority alliance member

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lovely-mayhemMaryanne•

He’s funny. Not a great player though

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idrinkandigotobed•

It’s not just you. He’s so cringe.

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AGiantBlueBear•

I guess I don't see why he'd save Julie over Austin, who is practically a goat at this point with his misplays the last couple of weeks.

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ComicsEtAl•

For him to win immunity it would have to be a challenge uniquely suited to him. Best example of what I’m saying is Bruce’s three wins, which all came in challenges that were great fits for a tall, strong person. But Jake is rubbish at puzzles and he’s weak physically so I’m not sure what challenge might suit him.

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hlsp•

Iirc Jeff did say that one of the immunity challenges this season would be 2000s Boston sports trivia, so our boy Jake has a chance.

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Idk about that, Jake has actually been pretty consistent with immunity challenges. He’s never won any, but he always does pretty well in them

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JFC-Youre-Dumb•

Maybe simmotion?

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maltamSophie•

That's unfortunately always the final immunity challenge these days. I wish to God they would switch it up but they're used that as Final immunity for at least all of the new era and probably a few seasons prior if I remember correctly

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JFC-Youre-Dumb•

Yeah they finally switched it up!

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Sky-Visible•

It’s been used for 42 and 44 while a stacking challenge was used in 41 and 43. If the pattern continues then a stacking challenge will be final immunity here and simmotion next season

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studio_eqThe Monster•

If Romeo can do it, anybody can

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Why Austin? That makes zero sense when DEE and JULIE are the leaders in win equity

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Bmagic_OP•

he’ll need julie to vote austin out with katurah

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wondererererer•

IMO, that would make a worse case for Jake, not better. I think he has a better chance at beating Austin than Julie in the end, and his idol play would be a move for the sake of making a move, rather than an actual strategic move. I think Jake has a chance of winning and id be happy to see him win, but I don’t think this specific scenario would be his best shot at that.

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Bmagic_OP•

hmm, i think the difference of opinion comes from thinking about who he can beat at the end. I still have a feeling he has a better shot against Julie

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Comfortable_Ad9679•

Voting out Austin would end his game

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queertheories•

In what world would Jake getting out Austin be seen as anything but a decent move lol

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Comfortable_Ad9679•

Austins a goat lol if jake goes to ftc with Julie or Dee he gets 0 votes

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queertheories•

Hard disagree.

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sulfaterTai•

You think Austin has more win equity than Julie and Dee?

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ComicsEtAl•

For me it’s the world in which Austin isn’t the actual threat. Which is this world because Dee is the actual threat.

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QuopleNaseer•

I think it’s a better path to victory to take out Austin along with Dee. Austin’s blunder with his alliance pretty much blew up his whole game and Julie might have that likability factor among that tribe for voting. I don’t think Austin would do as good in an FTC than Julie would.

I do agree that Jake is a likely winner if he makes it to the final 3 without Dee sitting there. Even with Dee sitting there I can see him making it close win or lose

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jwormyk•

Jake Austin and Katurah final three, I think Jake wins with any strategic move or last minute win. Austin fumbled the ball too many times and Katurah is a goat.

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PorchHonky•

I’m here for it! He wouldn’t be the first goat to win in the new era!

Here we are now! Entertain us!!!

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MotherofFred•

I hope Jake wins.

My theory is that he's been underplaying this whole time on purpose. Guy's a lawyer, so maybe he's quite good at strategy but has been underplaying to throw everyone, including us in his confessionals, off his scent. Yes, I know this is delusional fan fiction, but a girl can dream.

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FifeSymingtonsMom•

Jakes playing the laaaaaaawwwwwnnnn game

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tydyety5•

Austin would be the absolute worst person to target. In order for him to win he needs to be sitting next to Katurah and Austin. Play the idol to save Julie and eliminate Dee, then beat Julie in fire making. Austin has made too many big mistakes these past few episodes. Not getting the idol back from Julie, then having it used against him in a blindside that he messed up by telling Dee because he’s in looooove completely changes his game. I don’t see any scenario where he wins, honestly.

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Kivahoosier•

I love Jake. He reminds me of Bill Murray’s character on Caddy Shack.

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