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Bamcha

I am Always seeing new posts on weapon suggestions and..

Why always with the firearms? However running with firearms why never the .22caliber firearms by far the most common firearm in the US? For most people that have used and use firearms regularly the .22 is usually the first one used and many of the people I know personally that own many firearms have at least one .22 usually more.

Think about it logically for a second. In a real life scenario as you can guess by the way most people post on this and other games they would turn their nose up at the puny .22cal so ammo would still be EVERYWHERE! Now also while a .22 may not have the stopping power of say a .45cal omgkillyoudead they do on the other hand have KILLING power not to mention a surprising range with said killing power. Ask anyone who has poached you can drop large animals (such as deer) with a .22cal rifle at 100+ yards.

Quiet. Did I mention quiet? At least in comparison to the other high caliber firearms.

Minimal muzzle flash.

Light weight.

Easy maintenance.

Durable.

Oh and COMMON. I think I did mention the .22 cal is a VERY common firearm.

BUT BUT a .22cal is for kiddies it's just not the same as a M-fuckyoualotsprayandpraymilitaryissuekillpeoplegun. Well while I am no scientist on the matter I am sure a .22cal rifle can kill a person just as dead as a .50cal sniper rifle and also with only one round discharged.

In addition I see relatively few threads with Can we use a 16oz wall hammer or a 3lb mechanic adjuster (heavy hammer). Usually melee threads are can we have samurai swords and juggernaut axes? Also what about other weapons then like first weapons such as a punch knife. Many arguments are well weapons like that take special training blah blah. People really think that carpenter with the 16oz hammer can't swing it effectively from many different angles and with power? Common he swings that thing 8 hrs. a day of course he is good with it. Also there are martial arts schools all over this country! Boxing, wrestling, European martial arts, Asian martial arts, South American martial arts, Martial arts from all over the world.

Do people really think NONE of those people would survive? Or maybe the only the 12yr olds and 400lbs porkers will survive to go out and do like they do on video games with the M1-1911 that magically appeared in their refrigerator and kill anything that moves totally on their own as they expend an endless supply of rounds, singlehandedly killing the armies of undead and the pesky humans desperately trying to survive unlike their own superior self who has it all figured out.

Posted Jun 18, 2014, 2:55 AM UTC

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BamchaOP•

yes I have fired .22 cal weapons before and you would be surprised what you can do with a .22long rifle. As far as getting shot in the shoulder just hurting like hell? Pretty sure it would make said shoulder useless. Lol a bb gun powered via gunpowder. Sorry there is a huge difference. Yes I have also fired a 9mm a .45 a .50 a SKS many rifles shotguns and pistols. I grew up in a hunting family and poaching when needed. Still a .22 and long or recurve bows are the most well rounded and versatile projectile weapons I have used.

Now I do admit as for a sustained firefight military style spray and pray weapons would be advantageous. However as for general survival small light dependable and powerful enough to get the job done good enough for me. Also on the note of not dropping a deer? Look at a box of .22 long rounds and look at the effective range. It's a lot more than a bb gun. Shoot straight!

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GeneralZeroZX•

I hate to be a troll, but have you ever shot a .22? They are no where near quiet, bro. They are almost as loud as a 9mm.

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ogreatbeardedoneSanctuary•

well, he did say "...in comparison to the other high caliber firearms." But I agree, its sort of like saying "If you jump off the 22nd floor of a building you won't go 'splat' as hard as if you jumped off the 50th."

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GeneralZeroZX•

More like the 24th floor compared to the 25th lol But, yeah. I get it. Just saying that you still really need ear protection from .22s

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ogreatbeardedoneSanctuary•

If you want quiet, nothing beats my Beeman RS1. .22 pellet goes in one side and out the other of a rabbit at 30 yards with just a 'fwumph.' Its as loud as a real 22 if you don't put in a pellet though.

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BamchaOP•

Air rifles would also be good in a survival situation. I used to hunt small game with them all the time.

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BamchaOP•

Also I am comparing the sound of a .22 to the report for the HIGH caliber firearms most people seem to think necessary. Also the report from a 9mm is nowhere near the report from a .45cal handgun.

In other words If you fire a single round from a .22 from a short distance most people are not even sure if it was a gun. However if at the same distance from the same person you fire a single round from a .50cal rifle people can generally say " Yes that was a gunshot and it came from that way."

That's what I meant by quiet.

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GeneralZeroZX•

I posted this on another person's comment too, but here it is for your inbox:

I understand what you are saying. Depending on the grain of the bullet and composition of the tip the bullet could go father than 100 yards. I'm just saying that if a 9mm is attracting zombies from a relatively long range then so should a .22 rifle or handgun. The sound carries farther than you think. Even if it is hard for inexperienced people to tell if it was a gun that just shot the sound would still be loud enough to go with the theme of attracting zombies for over a half a mile.

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BamchaOP•

True enough especially if multiple shots were discharged. I meant more along the lines of 1 or 2 shots fired however I do agree with you in that if you are firing a lot of shots such as in a firefight (or just miss a lot) the caliber of the firearm in question would no longer matter you might as well hold up a 1/2-3 mile sign saying "I am here" with an arrow pointing down.

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Alice_Dee•

No firearm will be common in this game.

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ConraireI regret nothing!!!•

I don't know, my biggest issue with most weapon suggestions is, every kid and their brother suggests the same military guns that have been seen in every shooter game. I could see the more historically location appropriate ones being in game, m16, m1911, m92, m4, etc.

But, no one ever asks for the guns that you'd actually likely find in the real world here. Which would be high powered hunting rifles. Random pistols and revolvers. .22's, and .223 firing rifles. And you never see people asking for things that would be appropriate for a giving in game setting. Like finding random deadly farm implements on a farm.

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BamchaOP•

I agree

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Loyrd•

@GeneralZeroZx Bro have you shot a .22? or a 9mm? they dont sound the same at all, the .22 is just a bb gun that is powered via gunpowder, the bullet size is small and has a very short range.

On the .22 note it is not the strongest gun in the world, so if you shoot someone in the shoulder or the leg they wont drop, it will just hurt like hell. But like any gun if you shoot someone in the heat they will most likely die. Yes i agree, its quiet, light, maintained easily, and super common, most people who have a gun own a .22. But killing deer? from 100+ yards? ehh not likely.

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[deleted]•

i think someone needs to learn how to reply instead of going

@generalzerozx

because that doesnt let him know at all

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Ledce83•

100 yards is pushing it, at around 50 if you hit them in the lung, the heart or the brain you can kill them. It is not an instant kill and if you spook them before they are dead, you may never find them. The same with people. Disclaimer: I don't know any of this from personal experience, but I know people who have poached deer rather than starve on particularly bad years. As for them killing people, there is a lot of information out there on that subject.

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Ledce83•

You might get 100 yards with a .22 mag.

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GeneralZeroZX•

I understand what you are saying. Depending on the grain of the bullet and composition of the tip the bullet could go father than 100 yards. I'm just saying that if a 9mm is attracting zombies from a relatively long range then so should a .22 rifle or handgun. The sound carries farther than you think. Even if it is hard for inexperienced people to tell if it was a gun that just shot the sound would still be loud enough to go with the theme of attracting zombies for over a half a mile.

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