Some basic TRP for the Newcomers

Red Pill Example

Not the author of this, but it's worth sharing.

You either love women or understand them, you can't do both... Once you take the red pill, there's no going back.

But yeah, honestly I'm not going to lie. When I was younger I was a hopeless romantic (simp) I use to write poems to girls I liked in middle school ( ACTUAL POEMS bruhs, not know "roses are red" shhit) and all of that. My father both schooled me on the game as well as let me experience for myself what it was like. He always tells me now that he use to HATE to think of the day I'd get my heart broken and become cynical towards women because I was always such a caring boy. But he explained to me then and now, that women aren't really looking for "feelings" as opposed to "security". Women want a man who is sure of themselves, confident, and willing to live without them. Women NEED to know that they are expendable in any given relationship. If your woman is your everything and she KNOWS this from the jump, then she has the advantage. Which means she has license to do any and everything she wants, including disrespect you, talk down to you, fukk over you,etc.

"A woman looks at a man the way a man looks at money" My Father always taught me. "A man will spend his entire life chasing dollars because Dollars equal a better life, a better car, a better house. But when they get enough of it then it becomes disposable, they lose respect for it, for what it took to accumulate it." This is why you see Floyd Mayweather burning $100 dollar bills at the club. Why you see T-Pain rocking a chain that says nothing but "BIG ASS CHAIN" in diamonds. Why you see Jay-Z and Kanye West tearing up $200,000 plus luxury cars in videos. What it took to gain that wealth has been trivialized, it's in abundance and therefore it has become disposable.

Women are the same way. A woman will spend half her time searching for the "right man" a man who respects her, loves her, listens to her, is attentive, romantic, etc. A man who truly loves her and supports her equal a better life, better house, a better car. But when that man is truly and unconditionally open to her and they get enough of it, then he becomes disposable, she loses respect for him, for what it took emotionally to forge that connection and openness. The "mystery" of him is no more. This is why you see women who constantly chase after "thug *****s". This is why you hear about wives fukking thier husbands friends, associates, coworkers. This is why you have music videos with Rhianna glorifying unstable relationships full of arguing, drug use, and insecurity. Talking about falling in love in a "hopeless place", because in that "hopeless place" is the thrill of the unknown. What it takes to have a man who can provide security, comfort, open displays of affection, and love has been trivialized, it is in abundance and therefore has become disposable.

Even as a married man I still, and forever will, see my wife as a woman first. I'm as open with her as I've been with any woman however, she knows that she is NOT irreplaceable. I will dump her just as quickly as I would have before we were married and have made this quite clear. Before we were married I broe up with her before and just cold turkey stopped talking to her. She knows that as a man I've been taught and raised that I need NO woman to define my life or make me fulfilled. If she disrespects me its a wrap. If we're having a conversation or argument and she begins to speak to me in a manner unbecoming of my status as a MAN, I calmly ask her " Who the Fukk do you think your talking too?" Not like I'm Ike Turner, but like a MAN who will not be talked down too. As a RULE I make it a principle to not talk down to my wife, I treat her as an adult and a grown woman, and she WILL do the same at all times. I've told her, as well as any other woman I've dated that this is NOT a request, it is a DEMAND. My father taught me that when it comes to women never EXPECT respect. DEMAND it. I give it to her and she will give it to me. A lot of men let puccyy dictate how they treat women, they'll put up with certain things in order to make sure they are still smashing that Ass at the end of the night. I get this, but as my father taught me, " She wants it just as much as you do." this is key. If I need to allow a woman to run roughshod over me just to get some sex then something is WRONG in this equation. If I stand my ground on an issue and it equals no sex, then that woman is probably giving up the goods on the side anyways.

I'd love to go back to the fairy tale of my youth, where girls were exotic, heavenly creatures to be admired and romanced. Where beng inspired to write a poem about a female was a thrilling gesture.Where I could dream about getting a girl to love me based upon the virtue of my character. Sadly, that world does NOT exist, and honestly it never did. The "Game" is the same as its been since the beginning of time. My father, when I was a kid, use to always watch cartoons and animated movies with us. One time we were watching Bambi, and he pointed to a scene in which grown up Bambi sees the female doe and falls in love. He's dancing around the forest all "twitterpated" and in awe of this beautiful creature. Suddenly another male aggressively shows up and begins to make off with the female. Bambi, at first confused, tries to lead off with the female, but the aggressive male buck comes between them. The female doe begins to walk off with the aggressive male buck until Bambi, coming to understanding with the way the world and nature truly is, becomes enraged and engages the Male Buck in combat. It is a thrillingly violent sequence (for a childrens movie) that ends with Bambi triumphantly subduing his adversary, his prize the right to mate and have children with the female doe. My father would watch this sequence, tell me to pay attention "Because this is a lesson I'd learn later in life" and say "that's it!" at the end of the sequence.

The point is that the female doe didn't give two flying fukks how much Bambi was in "love" with her. How much he was frolicking at the sight of her. She was perfectly happy to go mate with the aggressive male buck until Bambi wised up and fought for his right to mate. His right to sire children. His right to call himself a Buck. It was the AGRESSIVENESS that got Bambi the woman, his unwillingness to be disrespected, his DEMAND for proper loyalty. NOT his emotions.

THIS is the way of relationships. A man must never allow his emotions for a woman to be the end all and be all of the relationship. For if it is, he will NOT have his woman for long, she'll be off smashing the next male Buck.

Posted Jul 2, 2014, 4:05 AM UTC · edited

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Sapienti_Sat1•

"A woman looks at a man the way a man looks at money"

That´s the key of this post. Truer words were never spoken. I ask myself do I love money? No. I do not love MONEY per se, I love the possibilities it can give me and things it can provide for me. It´s the same with women really..I love the attention, the sex, the thrill..I love the possibility of having a kid..or a happy home..or whatever. I do not and I should not love WOMEN herself. The same way she doesn´t love me. Because she is not capable of it. I think that is the hardest thing to understand and the hardest frame to maintain.

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MrFission•

Wont you at least post a link to the authors original post? Or was it an Email you recieved? If it is an actual blog, you should give credit for it!

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2commentOPEndorsed Contributor•

Wont you at least post a link to the authors original post?

Where I read it long ago, it was already a quoted repost. You can google sleuth as well as me, if it's that important to you. Multiple people have posted it places as their own after I read it several years back, just be aware.

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SgtTRP•

This is hardcore.

If your woman is your everything and she KNOWS this from the jump, then she has the advantage. Which means she has license to do any and everything she wants, including disrespect you, talk down to you, fukk over you,etc.

If she disrespects me its a wrap. If we're having a conversation or argument and she begins to speak to me in a manner unbecoming of my status as a MAN, ... this is NOT a request, it is a DEMAND. My father taught me that when it comes to women never EXPECT respect. DEMAND it.

I counted 7 times he mentions his father. He tells how his father thought him to be a man. If you have kids and you are not teaching them, actively teaching them, you are a shitty father.

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demilitarizdsm•

I truly false dichotomy built on this guys inability to realize he can redefine his idea of love which he built in an adolescent period without experience or wisdom.

My experience is once you learn to understand them you can then apply that knowledge practically to shift the dynamic. After that you can start to define love with more elements of your success in making these happen for you. That is key because you aren't just loving her you are loving yourself in process for self improving.

I feel for the writer and I don't want to say he is bad because he is working through this. Just don't limit yourself so much and remember one of your best strengths is that you can adapt.

Edit: I know that sounds like heavy BP shit now that I'm reviewing the language. Gotta disclose yet again Im a married guy but I love the RP and I just always gotta put that stuff in the context of my marriage. Love isn't a word used here but I do love my wife but realize shes very much capable of all the behavioral patterns talked about in core RP stuff. Try not to take me for some nancy boy :D

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You either love women or understand them, you can't do both... Once you take the red pill, there's no going back.

This is hella cynical man, and I can't agree. Once you move into a long long LTR you both become emotionally attached to each other. As it progresses, and you begin to trust and confide in your partner you both develop the capacity to emotionally eviscerate the other.

But when that man is truly and unconditionally open to her and they get enough of it, then he becomes disposable, she loses respect for him, for what it took emotionally to forge that connection and openness.

Nobody is unconditionally open, unless they are a fool. The condition of being open is one of implicit trust. It's showing your partner the chinks in your armor and trusting them not to stab you, because they have shown themselves trustworthy.

You seem to be implying here that you can somehow avoid this situation in a serious relationship. This is not the case. If you are wading into a LTR, many of these chinks will get exposed whether you like it or not. This is a consequence of pairbonding. The only way to avoid this, is to cut yourself off completely from your SO, to basically never get attached. This sounds miserable, you have a wife, not a roommate. This lady is going to be the mother of your children. If you get critically injured in the hospital she's going to be the one calling the shots. You need to be able to trust her. If anything, this entire post is a story of why you need to pick a quality person to date.

Don't take this as a license to become a pushover and throw away all your dreams, and this

As a RULE I make it a principle to not talk down to my wife, I treat her as an adult and a grown woman, and she WILL do the same at all times. I've told her, as well as any other woman I've dated that this is NOT a request, it is a DEMAND. My father taught me that when it comes to women never EXPECT respect. DEMAND it. I give it to her and she will give it to me. A lot of men let puccyy dictate how they treat women, they'll put up with certain things in order to make sure they are still smashing that Ass at the end of the night. I get this, but as my father taught me, " She wants it just as much as you do." this is key. If I need to allow a woman to run roughshod over me just to get some sex then something is WRONG in this equation. If I stand my ground on an issue and it equals no sex, then that woman is probably giving up the goods on the side anyways.

is fine advice but holy moly opening up to someone emotionally won't castrate you. It's a cornerstone of a good relationship.

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JohnDoe78•

I think you mistyped r/bluepill in the address bar mate

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[deleted]•

That post was basically "Don't marry the girl in the OP or she's gonna rip your balls off later." Not 'bluepill' at all. If you think being emotionally unavailable is going to solve this problem you're gonna be up shit creek posting about your failed LTR in a few years, guarantee. Relationships are very different from pulling girls at a party. Notice how the other married guy in here is saying the same thing?

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BluepillProfessor•

No, actually I did not notice that.

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TheGreenPill•

Cry in front of your girlfriend. See how long it takes for her to find an excuse to dump you.

Opening up emotionally to a woman is a fast track to being left behind. Give the performance of being emotionally available, but save the actual emotions for your male friends.

Women will tell you until they're blue in the face that they want you to share your emotions, but don't, ever.
The moment you do, you're weak in their eyes and you'll find yourself a servant with a master, not a partner.

Call me cynical, or emotionally stunted or whatever other shallow descriptors you may have, but opening up to a woman completely will castrate you in their eyes.

The first line is complete bunk though, real love is through understanding. Keep in mind; women don't love men the way men love women.
There is a difference and that's ok, just don't expect to be loved back the same way and don't hate them for it.

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Again, an overly simplistic view of things. If crying in front of your wife over something legitimate caused her to walk, you had a shit marriage in the first place. Eventually you will fall in love with your SO if you start building a LTR, she will know this, you will know this, and she will be able to cause you great emotional pain like any other person you care deeply about would. Recognizing this is not "blue pill," it's the truth. Your wife will get the keys to castle, and you'll get hers. This is why it's critical that you start serious relationships with only people you can trust.

Your view, that all women will never love you, is bad for your own well being. Why? Because if that were true the logical conclusion would be to never date or marry anyone. Now maybe you want that already, but if you want to build a family someday you need to recognize who's trustworthy and who's not, who's wife material and who's not. If you can't do that, and simply think that women will never be loyal, you're setting yourself up to marry someone disloyal because you think it's just how everyone is. You can't separate the wheat from the chaff. Don't marry a shady girl cause she has a nice ass. This is like 'serious relationships for dummies,' I don't know why this and the other comment from the married guy are getting downvoted for being too blue pill, he's right and you're setting yourself up for failure if you think being an emotional hardo is what's going to keep something going for 20+ years. Good luck.

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TheGreenPill•

Good job delibrately misinterpreting my comment.

I never said 'women will never love me', this is you projecting your own bullshit.
I said women don't love men the same way men love women. I also said that I don't see a problem there, it is simply that women are different to men and shouldn't be punished for not being men.
You want to punish men for not being women.
Anyone that shames men for not being feminine enough is blue pill. You probably think the term "toxic masculinity" is a good and accurate one.

I also never said women are not loyal. Again your own fears being projected.

If you think I'm being an 'emotional hardo' you're again wilfully misunderstanding what is being said.

Why is making my happiness someone else's responibility good for me?
Why can I not be happy and secure in myself and be ok with that?
Why do you denigrate people that find personal achevement a good thing?
Why is so much of your life's worth wrapped up in what somone else thinks of you?

If I can't love myself no amount of positive attention from others will have any meaningful value. Your enitre case is that love can only exist when someone else permits you to love them.
Real love is when you can love a person and expect, want and need nothing from them to do so. It is not a thing to trade for security, or money, or as a thing to be witheld when you don't get what you want.
It is also not given to you as it can only be created by yourself for yourself - independant of any other external factor or influence. Someone can love you, but it has nothing to do with how you feel, that is a choice that person has made for themselves.
You confuse how you feel with your expectations of what you want from others. There is the true path to bitterness and isolating depression.

WTF is 'keys to the castle" ? You're acting like emotions are a thing to be traded. I don't want my wife's 'keys to the castle', I don't think of her as property to be 'won' as a reward.
It is dehumanising to think that. What a disgusting thought, to think that you deserve anything from your partner. Way to objectify women.

You don't know why you're being labelled blue pill because you're still thinking the way you've been told to think by the feminist thought police.
Your so far in the hole any idea that doesn't match yours you hamster around until it makes sense to you. I can see this in how you misrepresent and misstate what I wrote, it shows a deep and deliberate effort to self decieve. You may not be aware that you're lying to yourself.

Read the sidebar more, observe more, pay attention to what is said and what is done and the difference between.
Then read the side bar again. Then read up on Stoicism (not the bullshit first year philosophy class stuff, but proper Stoicism).
Then read the sidebar.

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chakravanti93•

It is dehumanising to think that. What a disgusting thought, to think that you deserve anything from your partner. Way to objectify women.

What? Are you serious? Objectification is nothing more than recognizing human as capitol. Gross, humiliating displays of such might be described as vulgar but you can't not obkectify when discussing human market value.

Expecting, even deamnding a wife "fulfill her role" and "preform duties" is no more objectification than nexting.

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BluepillProfessor•

you begin to trust and confide in your partner you both develop the capacity to emotionally eviscerate the other

Except SHE will be the one wielding the knife 99 times out of 100. Opening up emotionally WILL castrate you if it is negative. If it is all sunshine and roses you will be fine but if you try to dump your bad year on your lover she will be long gone. You know not of what you speak because you are still Twitterpattered.

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