Noob lift question

Just got a Wrangler Unlimited Sport and looking to do a beginner budget lift to hold me over a few years until I get really into it. I'd like to be able to do some off-roading, nothing crazy, but sounds like I need at least 2" lift and 32" tires to off-road.

I've tried reading up on it but it's not as simple as "buy this lift and install it...." It sounds like I'll need to get:

2" Spacers

1" Body Lift

DT3000 shocks

Extended Bumpstops

32" tires

16" rims

New gears

Re-align everything

Is this correct or am I still missing stuff? Or do I not need a lot of it?

Posted Nov 24, 2014, 11:22 PM UTC · edited

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PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSETS•

The JKU is an incredibly formidable offroad vehicle stock.

They run the Rubicon Trail stock.

Here's what you need to do.

Get a handheld UHF, air compressor, 2x 18mm crescent wrenches, zip ties, snatch strap, and 2 Tow Shackles.

Now find a local 4x4 club and go offroading.

You'll be surprised at how many things you can tackle stock.

The wrenches are for the sway bar, just remove the nut and bolt and zip tie the sway bar to the top of the frame.

Drop your tires down.

The snatch strap and shackles are for if you get stuck. The UHF is to communicate on the trail.

Bring water bottles and some chairs and food.

Find a local 4x4 club on facebook. You may even find a Jeep club as I did.

When you can't get past a certain obstacle, take the chicken track and remember for next time what you'll nwed to get past it.

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realfinkployd•

As a brand new JKU Sport owner (as of Saturday), this was the best thing I've read yet :)

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PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSETS•

New JKU owner Hey?

For your information ;-)

This guy's videos are very very helpful

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FutureDenverOP•

That's really helpful thanks. I was reading through guides that said stock JKU will just get you to your secluded campsite and not to expect much else. I found another post on reddit that listed all that stuff you mentioned so I'll start collecting for that, but if I go with a local group can I rely on them having everything?

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PM_ME_YOUR_SUNSETS•

I have done beach driving, rock crawling and trail driving with the JKU stock. But mine is a diesel JKU so I am lucky with Torque at least.

Hahaha nooo man!

Here watch this video

Now a little known fact about the JK is that it has a Brake Lock Differential. You don't exactly need locking wheel hubs, if you are offroad and one tyre starts spinning more than the other, just stay on the revvs, don't back off, the brake lock diff will engage and brake the spinning wheel and allow the other wheel to get you over the obstacle.

Knowledge of your vehicles capabilities can only be determined by taking it offroad.

I am part of a few clubs. The Jeep community is good but a few guys will get 37" tyres and a 7" lift but have no clue how to use the vehicle. Knowing how to 4 wheel drive will get you further than a modded 4 wheel drive will.

It's good to join 4 wheel drive communities that have different vehicles though. In Australia, most people drive Nissan Patrols or Toyota Land Cruisers or Prados. Wranglers are seen as a bit of a barbie car. And to each their own.

Other vehicles have better towing capacity though and are better equiped for recovery than a Wrangler might be.

So be friendly and not a jeep snob and you'll go far!

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tuxacious•

Teraflex leveling kit with 33's. Even with 3:21 gears regearing is not a necessity. I would hold off on axel mods and major suspension changes until you want to go 35's or higher. Also your Jeep is fully capable off road as is. Take it out and see what immediate mods you think it needs. Only you really know how you want it to preform when your build is done.

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FutureDenverOP•

Teraflex leveling kit with 33

Perfect, I was hoping I could pick up just a few parts to accomplish this.

Do you have any idea how much a leveling kit and 33"s would cost (parts + labor)? Can I keep the 33"s on my stock rims or should I do the leveling kit, tires, and rims all at once?

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tuxacious•

Looks like $389 for the leveling kit here: http://www.jeep4x4center.com/jeep-lift-kits/teraflex/jeep-wrangler-jk-15.htm

As far as the tires go, that will depend on what brand you go with. Some are alot more expensove than others.

Wheels wise, I know alot of people use the stock wheels with 12.5 inch wide tires but you will need wheel spacers to accomplish that. I honestly dont know what size spacers you will need for it.

I have no idea for labor on all of that. I did all my mods myself. I would recommend calling around your local 4x4 shops and stay away from most dealerships. Dealerships typically have higher labor rates.

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SoWhatComesNextJK•

32s will fit without a lift and with almost zero rubbing. Use the money you'd put int the spacers into A good engine skid plate and rock sliders.

When you disconnect the front sway bar (two 18mm bolts) you will see more flex than you would expect. Also, 17 inch rims will provide a wider range of tire options, help maintain good on road performance and allow a bit of space for you to do a brake upgrade later (though won't be necessary with 32s).

17s with 4.5 inches of backspace or less will fit 285/70/17 (~32.5 inches) just fine

Can't say it enough: ARMOR. Tires will get you over obstacles, armor will get you farther down any trail, without damage, than any other mod. Skid plate and sliders is pretty much all a jk wrangler needs

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robonator•

Almost everything you mentioned is unnecessary.

Trade your tires in for an all terrain (of the same size as current) of your choice. BFG makes decent ones, as does General Grabber, Procomp, or Michelin. Your call.

Go to and auto parts store of your choice and get a snatch strap. Those are the yellow ones with loops on the end. No metal hooks, those are tow straps. Snatch straps are elastic and will stretch and help pull you out. Tow straps are static and will break under excessive force and the metal hook can fly off and injured someone or damage something.

While you're there, get a basic tool kit. Make sure you have sockets, wrenches, screwdrivers, and pliers. You can look up standard JK bolt sizes yourself, I'm sure.

Next, crack open your owners manual and read it. KNOW YOUR VEHICLE! Know it's max fording depth, it's approach and departure angles, it's breaker angle and gross load weight. How to properly engage 4 wheel drive and on what surfaces to engage it on.

Now get up under it and familiarize yourself with your Jeep's components. The driveline, the suspension, the power plant and it's ancillary equipment. Know where your evap canister is, and try not to bash it on a rock.

Now, use your Google fu and find a 4x4 club. Go wheel with them. Remember, you don't have to do every run they do. They might be tackling a 7 - 8 trail. Let them know your experience level and take it slow.

Don't be afraid to ask questions. Anyone worth their salt will take the time to teach you what they know. Most guys love talking shop: that's why we're all here, afterall.

HAVE FUN!!

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Winterlands•

I've already done a fair but of 4WDing in my stock 2 door JK sport. They can handle almost anything!

Just have recovery equipment, a compressor of sorts and plenty of water :)

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bat_tacos•

The main reason for the lift is to increase clearance to allow bigger tires. Most 32's will fit without rubbing on a stock JKU so you probably don't need a lift. Unless you plan to run 35's or add a bumper/winch which will compress your suspension, you can probably leave it stock.

In fact, thats what I advise everyone who buys a Wrangler for the first time. Don't make any serious mods before you have actually it taken off road a few times. Until you have done that, you really have no idea what actually needs an upgrade and what is just a massive wasted of money.

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FutureDenverOP•

Do you think I would need skid plates or is that for more serious off-roading?

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bat_tacos•

Skid plates are never bad.

With that said, where are you going? If you are going rock crawling you will need them far more than simply driving on a few fire roads.

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FutureDenverOP•

I live near the Rocky Mountains so I'll be using trails up there. I'm fine doing beginner trails for a while but wasn't sure if even those required skid plates.

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bat_tacos•

Like I said, armor is never a bad thing. A rock/limb can hit your undercarriage even on easy trails and screw something up. The more difficult the trail, the more necessary the armor becomes.

If money isn't an issue, armor is the one of the few things I would say would be a good investment no matter what kind of trails you drive...with the others being an air compressor and possibly a jerry can holder.

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Ehryk•

You don't 'need' anything special for offroading. Here's an old guy in Moab, Utah with a Crown Victoria: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFwPXEeJ3aI

32"s and lockers and swaybar disconnects and a lift or fender cutting is desirable, sure, but just go play. When you reach a limit, and you see other vehicles doing it, see what they have. Tires are going to be your first limitation, especially if you have some mostly-road all seasons on there. I stuffed 32" Goodyear Wrangler Authorities from Walmart under my Rubicon with a 2" lift with some front discos and the thing goes most anywhere.

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Asklepios24•

So as everyone has said you do not need a lift to fit 33s, if you are looking for new tires I would call around to local jeep dealers and see if they have a set of take-offs from a Rubicon you could buy. We are lifting 4 Rubicons at my dealer and just told a set of take-offs to a guy for $500. I'm not saying every dealer does this but its worth a shot to save some coin and get a nice set of tires

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DeaD_bAU52008 JKUR•

you can fit 33" tall stock

you can fit 12.5" wide with wheel spacers or offset rims.

Body lifts should be the LAST thing you should consider when you are putting your first few inches on. Stick with a 2" budget spring spacer boost if you are on a budget. You can fit 35" tall with one. Still need spacers or off set to get to 12.5 wide though.

You don't need bump stops or gears if you are sticking to 33's or under.

Also, look at Bilstein 5100s if you want shocks. They wont make you higher, or give you more articulation, but you will see a lot better road manners and feel.

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Btburn•

JK's come with 32" tires stock. pick up some new pull offs from craigslist from someone that lifted right off the showroom floor. I picked up a set of sahara rims and tires with TPMS with only 400 miles for $450.

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FutureDenverOP•

You know if that includes rims or do I keep mine?

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Btburn•

I found mine with the rims and tpms and they were still factory balanced with the little nips on the spare and no measurable wear on the others. It was a killer deal. I see them all the time for Rubicon rims and bfg mud terrains for around a grand brand new condition. Just keep checking craigslist. With winter coming you might have more competition with others trying to get them too.

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