This is completely theoretical; but after powershielding an attack(not a projectile), could you interrupt the shield drop animation with another shield; or would it only work with attacks?
Posted Dec 19, 2014, 3:19 AM UTC
There's a gif somewhere of (TAS) powershielding every hit of fox's dair.
I think I've seen that before as well. That makes no sense to to me; doesn't Fox's drill lock you in your shield?
When power shielding a physical attack, you still go through shield stun, and if another hitbox makes contact with your shield while you're still in shield stun, the powershield animation and sound play again. You retain the ability to eventually cancel your shield release animation with an attack when you leave shield stun.
Since Fox's drill locks you into shield stun, as long as you power shield the first hit, you'll get the power shield animation on each hit and will be able to counterattack after the drill ends.
Does that mean that you could lock somebody into their shield infinitely with multi-shining, assuming that they didn't get pushed away? I remember reading once that frame-perfect multi-shines lock you into your regular shield.
Shield DI
I'm pretty sure frame-perfect multi-shines will hit you in the startup of a buffered roll (before you are intangible), so no, you wouldn't be locked into your shield. But it's not like you have any OOS options that would beat it anyways. Like u/astupidpenguin said, you have to shield DI to safely get out of it.
When powershielding you get additional shield push so they would slide away from you after one or two shines. Mutlishine on shield isn't a perfect shield lock, when perfectly fresh it gives them 1 actionable frame between hits, and 2 as it stales, however this happens to be fast enough to catch a roll or spotdodge so it's basically impossible to get out of.
Nothing can lock you in a powershield, the shield doesn't come up.
I'm pretty sure it does. I know that shield stun still applies even while powershielding.
If you pause the game immediately after shielding you can actually see a little ring in the center of your shield. I think that's meant to signify the powershield.
Yes, your shield does come up. Power shielding does not cancel your shield. If you PS a projectile, you take no shield stun but are still limited to your usual oos options. If you PS a physical attack, you receive the same shield stun as a full shield, but you gain the ability to cancel your shield release animation with an attack.
Thanks for the knowledge. I'm sure there's a kadano video about shielding in the works too.
It only works with attacks.
If you power shield your shield drop animation will only take one frame. If you get after the shield stun ends then you can drop your shield and powershield again immediately. If you get hit a second time during shield stun after a powershield you will automatically powershield again. This can be seen with mutliple hit attacks like kirby's jab combo. If you power shield the first hit of his jab combo you can powershield each hit after.
I think only Peach and maybe some other DJC'able characters can do it. DJLO did a post about it on Peach's BKAM week.
Found it: http://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/2ilbtn/peachs_powershield/
That method's quite a bit slower than what I had in mind; although I guess that's as fast as it gets.
afaik Yoshi is the only other one. Ness and Mewtwo can't double jump land right after jumping.
yoshi can't jump OoS shield and you need to for this trick. Lucky peach.
Yoshi can jump after reflecting projectiles so it still works.
TIL!