GD/SQ/WSAYWT - 3/30/2015
QOTD: Engineer/pecos/jodhpurs boots. What are you opinions on them? Who makes the best pair, regardless of price?
Posted Mar 30, 2015, 1:54 PM UTC · edited
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Saturday: Boondockers on the beach
Sunday: Nicks chromepak
Today: SWSxTricker's
This right here is one of my favorite things about Oregon.
AOTD: Yes, especially engineers. And for those, Dayton, Viberg, and Role Club make my favorites.
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OK honestly, how do you get sand out of boots? Wiping and brushing can't be the only thing to get it out. Especially when they get in your boots.
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Don't let it in! Lace tightly and stay on the wetter sand!
I've worn my CXL Nicks in sand. It was mostly wet, but even the dry sand didn't get in. On the outside, I ran water over and wiped. I used a toothbrush for the welt.
The boondockers actually had a lot more sand work up into the tongue. If it wasn't stitched up to the top, sand would have gotten in. For these, I brushed and used a lot of water to get the sand off.
On other shoes, I just beat the hell out of them until the sand is out and try to avoid shoes altogether if it's warmer out.
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Also one of my favorite places in the NT
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Nice. Rocky coastline >>>>> sandy beaches.
I didn't get a chance to take any pics, but further down the coast where there are more mountains right up on the water and more sea stacks looked really awesome.
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I miss the Pacific Northwest so much. Images like that do not help.
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Stuff like that is why I came back!
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Nice pic!!! What beach is that?
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Coquille Point down in Bandon. It's nice to get down to the south coast and the less busy beaches of my people. (My mom grew up in Coos Bay and my great grandmother was born around there.)
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Ahhh, I haven't been that far south along the coast, yet. I think the furthest I've made it is Florence or Reedsport to visit the dunes. Beautiful area, though!
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We came back up through Reedsport. I like that drive along the lower Umpqua. My grandparents (on my dad's side) had some good friends in Scottsburg and my great grandfather, who was a physician in Cottage Grove, did house calls on that highway down through Elkton and beyond.
The south coast is awesome. Way less busy. There's great rocky terrain and cool roadside attractions. The jet boats in Gold Beach are fun.
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Hey man! I bought one of your field notes wallets back around christmas time in natural veg tanned leather. Just wanted to let you know that I'm loving it. I've taken to too OR observations, through hikes, had coffee spilled on it (multiple times), everywhere. I've filled out a couple notebooks already, can't wait to do more. Just thought you'd like to know that your products are awesome! Can't wait for the leather to age more. People are always very interested in it as it is very unique. Thank you! I'll definitely be buying more in the future.
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Awesome! I'd love to see pics if you get a chance!
I want to make some updates to that design since I finally added a pen holder to something. But with dental school coming up, I'll probably not get around to too many wallet/case pattern updates :(
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I actually really like that design. I'm not totally into the big pocket, it would definitely take it from a wallet to more of a journal case. However, I wish you had that when I bought mine because I'm a big fan of the pen holder! I personally use a Bullet Space pen (in natural brass for that metal patina) but was thinking of getting a regular Space pen or a Cap-O-Matic.
I'll get some pics to you when it starts to het a real noticable patina too it. I'll probably get a card holder sometime as it's inconvenient to carry around as my main wallet all the time if I don'g have a bag on me. Still love it though!
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Love those Tricker's. Would you mind elaborating on the make of them? I'm not sure what SWS is an initalism for. Thanks!
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They're from Six Whiting Street. They still have these in a few sizes, but I bought these from someone else here on GYW. I believe they are on the 2298 last.
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Good to know, thank you.
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Olive CXL, brown waxed flesh and chromepak? You forum darling, you
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That would be pretty rad! But no, only the latter two. Their olive stock has been depleted.
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Now I want another camp moc. Ugh, the struggle is real.
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omg. hurry
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am I right in assuming you play dota2?
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Nope! It's a meme used in other online games, too!
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oh my mistake, I thought I found the only other dota2 player on this subreddit
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WAYWT: Stark/Samurais/VP x Nick's
Still wearing my VP x Nick's pretty much every day. I bought the Samurai s710xx practically new (they'd been hot soaked to get all the shrinkage out) from someone on r/rawdenim for 50% off. Had railcar chop them down to fit my skinny legs.
I spent all weekend moving into my new house. My wife and I bought a duplex and are now landlords, so that should be fun. The original hardwood floors are featured in the pics above.
EDIT: CUE WARDROBE CHANGE BECAUSE THE ONLY THING I'VE EVER CONSIDERED A GRAIL JUST ARRIVED!. Sorry for yelling, I got excited. I saw pics of this jacket ages ago on MFA and never figured out what it was until u/thatisgrossman posted a pic of his jacket last week and helped me find this. It was on ebay for about $500 and I got the seller down to $360 shipped. It got here from Italy with astonishing speed. It only took a couple of days. It seems substantially more durable than my Filson cover cloth mile marker (which s going up for sale today if anyone is interested.) and fits pretty much perfectly. Soooooo happy with this jacket. Even the pocket flaps are lined!
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Nice!!! Glad I could help. I knew you'd love it, the fit really is incredible also and I'm glad it turned out to be the right size. I wish Filson didn't scrap the made in Italy Black label line. That is an awesome color, looks much better in these photos than the white background too.
Also, yes, that wool is substantial and beautiful. It really keeps you quite warm and is tightly knit into the jacket which is nice and helps. The details are incredible and really put the regular line to shame, which is quite hard to do and really saying something. #jacketbros4lyfe
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Yeah, it definitely seems a bit darker than in the ebay pics which is a plus. It is sad that that the Italy line went away, there was some really good stuff there.
Aside from the wool the waxed cotton seems heavier than the Filson cover cloth jacket I have. When I got the cover cloth it was definitely thinner than I was hoping for. Anyway, thanks man, I owe you one! #jacketbros4lyfe
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Yeah, this is definitely a jacket that is both functionally and aesthetically designed and well made. Quite hard to find stuff like this. It brings to mind some of Monitaly's offerings, which are also really nice in that regard.
And glad to help!
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what jacket is that?
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It's a filson black label made in italy from 2011.
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Very cool. Didn't know that existed
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Jacket looks awesome. Is it the Patagonia one from a few years ago?
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Thanks! It's a filson actually. They had a made in italy line for two years and this came out of that.
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omfg are you kidding that jacket has been a grail of mine for a long time now, just like you. jealous. so so jealous.
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Not sure what size you are, but I also found a size 42 in navy on ebay when I was looking. I think it was like $350
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hm, how did you size for it? my chest size is a 38ish
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I'm also 38ish and I got a size 40 which fits perfectly and has room to layer.
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Yeah man, 40 is probably where it's at for you. I'm about a 41 and the 42 fits perfectly. Ah that's too bad, only one I could find still was a 42.
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btw I've seen this called both the Filson Fisherman jacket and Filson Cartella jacket, I'd set up saved searches on ebay for both if I were you.
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Fuuuuckkk that jacket is nice
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That jacket is awesome, what is it?
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Thanks! It's from filsons made in italy/black label line which only existed for 2 years. I've seen it called both the fisherman parka and the cartella jacket
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A love letter to Northampton: Edward Green, John Lobb, and Tricker's.
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I'm not a huuuuge fan of those style of boots, but I have to say, tan suede jodhs have really grown on me. The SLP cropped jodhs look great to me. I do think they can look kind of feminine when you look at them alone, but as part of an appropriate outfit, I think they look absolutely amazing.
Beat up jodhs are really cool, couldn't find a better picture, but I loved how they looked on Lenny Kravitz at the Super Bowl (at least I think those were jodhs, I can't find a better picture to confirm)
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They look like sidezips, but it's the same silhouette.
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you stole my answer punk.
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I included pictures though, so my answer has like two thousand more words. Suck it.
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well mine now has a link to your comment so that means mine has all your words PLUS mine now. Yeah, what?
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Man those Jodhs look amazing Also where is the product page?
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Reminder: the Suede/Roughout Contest First Quarterly check in will be posted a week from today! Get out and beat up that suede and take photos!
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ooh baby.
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I'll join the club
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Nice! Those pants are great, too
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From the Epaulet "ends" sale in January.
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Epaulet pants and Meermin? Looking good. I would recommend tying your shoelaces with this method so they sit properly:
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Some days I pay attention to my right over left, left over right and some days I don't. Weird how I pay attention to so many other details and ignore that one.
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Second reminder: reddit gold to the winner.
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That's right! Thanks again for that!
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WSAYWT: Adidas x White Mountaineering. a rare trainer day for travelling on the train.
AOTD: I like them, but not enough to justify a purchase really. If I was to buy jodphurs they almost certainly be from Carmina though.
EDIT: the train line down the east coast of Scotland is great
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The more I see those sneakers the more I like them. Grey suede works well on sneakers I think.
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Yeah I think they'll be great for spring and summer. Though the crocking onto them by my PBJs are a little more than I'd like. These leak indigo.
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Yea fortunately my ISC's have barely crocked on my leather JP's. I would imagine the suede picks that up like crazy. You gonna keep them clean or just let it happen?
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Once it happens it happens really. Indigo isn't one for coming out. It'll hopefully not be quite as bad once I get them hemmed
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What's that jacket/overshirt?
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Rogue Territory waxed supply jacket
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- AOTD: I don't think I'd ever wear engineer boots, but I think the Ralph Lauren ones made by Julian are pretty awesome and these jodhpurs are fantastic too.
- Leather Stuff: I officially put up some always stocked shell cordovan items on my website. I'll be working on getting more put up over the next few days/weeks. Here are some ones I worked on this weekend. Shinki Hikaku Shell Cordovan minimalist card holder.
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damn. The natty shell bulwark with natty WF interior that's a stock option now...mmm mmm.
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The RRLs aren't made by Julian anymore. They are now made by Rios of Mercedes. Still high quality but a completely different makeup.
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Ah! Good to know. I was basing that off some eBay listings and just tried to find an actual product page. Both definitely look different but they're both still awesome.
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How do the RRL boots fit? TTS?
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No idea. Never owned them beyond just thinking they look cool.
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Deusis, did Ron send you those shells yet? I just saw this and was wondering if that is really how the gunmetal will patina. Crazy
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He just send me some small samples in the mail. The full size shells should be arriving soon!
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Awesome!
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Like the card holders.
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Really nice depth of field on those photos. What's your camera/lens/lighting setup like?
I'm interested in getting into photography and I'd like to reproduce the soft blurs and clean, bright lighting.
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Been meaning to post this shot from a trip to Chicago a couple weekends ago. It was one of those weekends that makes going back to reality suck real bad.
AOTD: I really love how jodhpurs look, and I like how they stand out. I like the sleekness and the sillouhett they give off. I don't own any but Id like to sometime in the near future hopefully.
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My last weekend in Chicago was the same way. I really, really enjoy visiting there. Great picture!
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Wearing my Thom's today. New pants which I'm excited about.
QOTD: love jodhpurs and chelseas. Want a RM Williams black Macquarie, and a tan suede jodhpur, preferably something like the PRL Newent jodhpur somewhere here has (sorry I forgot!)
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GD: I was skinnyfat my entire life in undergrad; I decided to hit the gym last September to balance out my time in graduate school. I benched 45 lbs in the first week, now benching 135. I barely managed to do one chin-up in the first week, now I can manage to do 2 pull-ups. They're not big numbers for a guy my size or length of progress, but it's the little things that count.
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Nice going. I was similar. I was skinnyfat/just downright chubby. Took up boxing at uni, made the team in 2 years, and was in the shape of my life. I found th st doing a sport I enjoyed greatly increased my ability to get fit.
That and the crazy nutter trainer we had. He could've snapped me like a twig.
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Thank you. At around the same time I took up lifting, I branched out doing other self-improving hobbies as well, including learning the guitar, more cooking, collecting watches and boots (I <3 u GYW) and was more active in my department than I've ever been. It's such a confidence boost, which did much more than just stabilize my mental health.
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Today - Red Wing J. Crew Iron Rangers in brick settler
Yesterday - Black Jack Elephants
AoTD: If I were going all out I'd probably get a pair of Role Club boots. Brian's work, from what I've seen, is phenomenal.
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SQ: This is going to sound a bit silly. But is there a dainite sole which is very similar in colour to natural leather welts apart from the red one?
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Not 100% definitive, but it doesn't look like it.
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wow some of those colors are just awful. They do have sepia brown as an option which is CLOSER to natural than any of those colors.
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Hm. That's got me Googling instead for toppys which look similar to natural leather. Like these Vibram ones.
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I have a brown one on my Vass
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Dayton has an ithside sole (like dainite) that is brown. I was driving deciding between that and black and I chose black bc I personally like the contrast.
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Thanks. I found a Ithside red which isn't that bad.
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Carmina's Dainite equivalent has a tan option:
http://www.skoaktiebolaget.se/products/carmina-cuero-suede-blucher#&gid=1&pid=2
It's a little too gray to match well, though.
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AotD: I like jodphurs but probably could not fit into my current wardrobe. Engineer & pecos are not fit into my previous, current and probably future wardrobe.
WSIWT: Intermittent rain today, C&J Coniston paired with Proof NY Nomad is the default getup.
SQ: Anybody interested on a write up of women FEIT shoes? SO just picked them up on sale and give them a run yesterday.
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hey man, last time you suggested me to some good options for shops in NYC. do you mind also telling me about transit and information about metrocard and how it works?
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Metrocard is quite simple, MTA has tons of info.
But the basic is, one trip cost $2.75 no matter how far you go and/or transfer as long as it's one entry and one exit (some exception but it's rare). You buy the ticket base on value ($) or time (daily/weekend/monthly). Ticket is valid for bus and subway.
Let me know if you need more specific detail.
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thanks, i think i'll be going with the pay per ride metrocard for 2 days which i understand costs 5.50. so my question is this: is it 5.50 for just the card or is there a one trip fare included in the card? as well, there are two other people with me. do we all need to buy separate cards or can we all use the card at the same time?
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$5.50 is the minimum which will give you about 2 ride (you paid $5.50 but the card will have $6.11 value because of the 11% bonus; why? don't ask, MTA is just weird), if you want you can buy as much as you want.
For 3 people, you can use one pay per ride card, which is convenient unless one of you want to go separate way :D
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FYI, be prepared to pay $1 for the metrocard itself. New rule as of last year, I think. If you're desperate enough to save $1 you can pick one up off the ground, if it's expired a booth agent will give you a new one for free.
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I'd like to see a write up. I don't think I'd purchase anything FEIT, but some of their offers are enticing.
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I'd like to see a review. Not a woman, but I haven't really seen much about Feit on here so it'd be good to get an idea of what they're like.
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Love the trousers! I just wish I could get over my aversion to scotch grain ;)
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Thanks! My aversion to scotch grain disappeared when I had them 70% off...
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Dayum. I think at that price I'd jump on the train as well!
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SQ:
What all infomation is out about the 3sixteen coffee chromepak boot? I would love to get in on a preorder or waiting list if it will basicaly be the same make up as last time with new leather.
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No information is out. There will be no pre-order, nor waiting list. The only information I can give is that 3sixteen is expecting a much larger amount of orders than for their other designs and is preparing for it.
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haha. ok. I was in on the SF chrome pak GTMO and we lost out since 3sixteen is taking pretty much the entire lot of leather. I guess I will just keep an eye out for more information to pop up.
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yeah 3sixteen and Viberg split it.
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That's good news. I hate founding out 2 hours after the announcement and they're already sold out. Here's hoping its a 2030or 110 semi structured.
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Sagara post a rather familiar looking boot on their Instagram account earlier
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Is the construction method of these well known? With my distain of Viberg's customer service and the inability to order even if I wanted to, I might have to try out a pair of these... And save 50%
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Really not sure man, my pair of sagaras were GYW but these kinda look like they have a double row of stitching
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WSIWT - Toast Quoddy.
Here is what I wore Friday. Was a spirit day for school to support the upperclassman that had patient presentations.
AOTD- I want jodhpurs. I think Carmina makes a great pair and so does SLP. I really haven't seen enough to know which is best. I think engineers are terrible (sorry).
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Love Quoddy's Toast Suede. Such a great color.
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Momos and bergs on a casual Monday.
With spring/summer rolling around anyone have a go to white v-neck tee you love? I'm searching for something that won't show a lot of nippleage, whenever I wear Hanes I can't stop seeing my own headlights whenever I look down.
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AOTD: As a collector, I think they can look beautiful because of the large seamless pieces of leather they usually have. I also love how much quicker they are to put on or take off. I also really like the rugged aesthetic that they can impart.
That being said, I will probably never wear any of them. They do not suit my personality, wardrobe or general aesthetic. Not to mention cultural background. It's not even that they'd look bad on me but that I wouldn't at all like how they looked on me and the impression they would make.
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I would argue engineers are the only boots that really give off a rugged look though. Pecos usually make you look like you're wearing a costume because of how cowboy they are (I really don't like cowboy boots so I'm biased) and Jodhpurs are usually really sleek and not at all rugged, I'd even be more likely to call them refined.
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To me Pecos boots aren't even cowboy at all. They're more associated with oil work, farming and construction. They have some similarity in style to cowboy boots but are really a pullon work boot which is important for jobs where removing ones boots frequently is an issue. Pecos boots have a flat block heel or wedge sole generally and not a riding heel and they don't have the leather soles that are popular with cowboy boots.
Anything looks costume when you're not used to it. I'd feel very odd at the moment wearing some of the jodhpur boots I've seen because they either look too feminine or too black ages jester to my eye. If I were to wear them for a while I might get used to it. Engineer and cowboy boots have advantages and disadvantages. Pull on boots in general are really convenient in certain situations. You don't always want to have to spend the time it takes to tie up laces. On a tall boot you either wear a pull-on boot or you spend 5 minutes lacing. I've wandered off on a tangent here as your original comment was about the ruggedness of these styles of pull-on boots so I'll stop here.
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one of the other outfits the google search popped up was yours :-P
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I don't even have those Pecos boots any more. I sold them last week. They were really nice and I wanted them to work (I wore them about 25 times before giving up) but the toe box on the model I had is very slim and the internal length is shorter than any other pair of Red Wings I've had. I'd have needed a size up in length and width (from 9.5d to 10eee) to get a good fit on them.
After you post enough WAYWT type posts around the internet you start appearing in google image searches for all kinds of things.
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not to discount your argument but I've seen lots of pictures of pecos boots with cuban heels. I've seen them with wedge and block heels as well of course, but I've seen them with cuban heels with a leather sole. I admit that I am not used to those kinds of boots. Maybe I was unnecessarily harsh in my comment that Pecos boots are costumey but a lot of the pecos boots I've seen give off that vibe to me.
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Maybe you're confusing Pecos boots with cowboy boots in general? My understanding is that Pecos boots are a line of western style workboots put out by Red Wing. They're a boot that's more at home on an oil rig than on a horse.
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Pecos usually make you look like you're wearing a costume because of how cowboy they are.
Everything is a costume if you take if out of context. If you wore a pair of jeans, a flannel and a pair of red wings where I'm from, you'd be in a costume. The "costume" argument is one I find ridiculously poorly thought out and frankly a waste of everybody's time. It needs to end.
Even if it is a costume, I find it strange not to call the cowboy aesthetic rugged but whatever.
Jodhpurs are usually really sleek and not at all rugged, I'd even be more likely to call them refined.
You know phil, I thought so too but then I realized that they will always look more rugged than their replacement within their context. In a formal situation for example, a pair of jodhpurs will look more rugged than a cap-toe bal. I can see them being sleek in a casual situation but a boot on the same last and same leather with laces would probably look more refined because it's more traditional. The jodhpur is still the new scruffy fucker on the block. Let's also not forget that it comes from a history as a riding boot, which I definitely associate with ruggedness.
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I don't think I agree with your argument regarding everything being part of a costume taken out of context. How would you wear a literal pair of cowboy boots? that's what Pecos are. a pair of red wings may be "workboots" but workboots are SO ubiquitous in culture today that you can wear them with most anything. I struggle to think of an outfit where a pair of Pecos boots looks anything other than costumy, unless you're literally a ranch hand or an actual cowboy. It's lack of ubiquity is what makes it costumy to me. It's too narrow in scope in my opinion. Maybe it's just a personal bias I have against that kind of boot. We can substitute the word costumey with limited if you'd like. I find them to be incredibly limited, I can only imagine one or maybe 2 outfits you can wear them with, and I still think you'll end up looking out of place in most contexts.
I will admit refined was the wrong word to use but I think sleek is perfect. They ARE sleek. Jodhpurs aren't sleek in the sense of being formal, but in the sense of silhouette. They contribute to a sleek slim silhouette. Refined was not the right word to use. Historically maybe it's a rugged boot but I'm talking about them in a fashion context here. I still would not call them rugged.
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How would you wear a literal pair of cowboy boots?
I am not sure what you mean here?
I know you live on the East coast in a city and I think your biases from your environment are showing. I agree that they might not work in Boston/New York/Philly/DC/Baltimore except by a guy doing road work. While I agree Wellington(Pecos) boots are not very fashionable and don't work in a variety of situations they are very popular in rural areas. I live in rural California(think cow and orchard country) and they are very popular here (along with cowboy boots). While most people here work on farms no one would bat an eye at someone wearing a pair here. I guess they are most at home with a pair of wranglers or carhartts and that helps your argument about their limited use.
Also I believe that they are different than cowboy boots. They are not used for riding at all. Anything with a cuban heel would be considered a cowboy boot IMO.
Sorry for the rambling, I just wanted to give you some more info. You don't need to like them but in some areas they are not costumey at all.
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I can only imagine one or maybe 2 outfits you can wear them with, and I still think you'll end up looking out of place in most contexts.
Here's a third and that's just one of the top images from a Google search on Pecos boot.
A very close friend of mine wears peco boots with jeans and a hoodie all the time in NYC and there is nothing costumey about that. You seem to be calling anything out of your comfort zone costumey, and that's fine, but it makes this discussion a little redundant.
They ARE sleek
Sure, all the ones from high end European makers that we see here are very sleek, much like every other offering by those companies. The ones I see on the NYC subway are more often than not, pebble grain and pretty scuffed and dirty. Even if you just pop the jodhpur pattern on a chunkier last, you lose the sleek aesthetic.
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Have you ever spent significant time in a rural area? I know you're in the northeast/mid atlantic area and I haven't spent much time there, but even here in some areas of Michigan, cowboy boots are a common footwear not associated with literal cowboys. People would wear them in every outfit that you would wear boots in.
Texas is even to a further extreme. People there will wear cowboy boots with basketball shorts.
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AOTD: Do not like. I just do not like the aesthetic of these kinds of laceless boots. However I do know that viberg has versions of engineer boots that are very high quality. Holy shit how could I forget the SLP regular and cropped jodhpurs. Those things are sexy. Still don't think I could ever wear them though. (see u/chickenfark's comment here for photos of the jodh.)
fade progress album 3 months. Now updated in the fade spreadsheet as well. I have been wearing these less with the acquisition of more pants so the fades haven't been coming as strong lately.
WSIWT. Denim trucker not pictured.
I'm having the same issue with getting more pants as of recently since I just picked up two in the past week. I still try to do 3-4 days minimum in my pants I'm fading.
yeah I try to do at least 3 days a week but sometimes it's hard when I want to wear other pants haha.
So good. I'm just getting into raw denim, I just wish I had more chances to wear them. How regularly do you throw yours on?
Same. Its partly why I bought such a nice pair that's known for interesting fades. I only get to wear them a maximum of 3 days a week, so I might as well make the most of them.
That makes a lot of sense. How did you pick out the style you went for?
Well I really wanted some indigo/indigo or indigo/black jeans, and being semi-active on r/rawdenim made me realise I really liked Pure Blue Japan. I'm an absolute sucker for texture and slubbiness, and they have it in bucketloads. Coupled with the interesting fades I'd seen with the deninio contest with the same jeans that pushed me over the edge.
If you do end up looking at higher end denim, it's definitely worth trying on as many cuts as possible. Slim tapered works well for me in PBJ and 3sixteen (bandy legs from years of boxing), and when you try on th st stuff, toy wonder why you ever wore jeans from River Island.
Look into RgT ISC trousers if you're interested in raw denim. They're chinos but made of Indigo x Indigo duck canvas, which is raw so it'll fade. Not exactly raw denim but a fun alternative (especially if you can't wear denim to work) that is wicked versatile. And RgT rocks.
Thanks man!! I've probably worn these somewhere between 70 and 80 times. Probably closer to 70. I've had them since December 31st of last year.
This was the album of photos I took the day after I bought them.
They've had one machine wash and one warm soak so far.
Wow, really nice for three months in. Thanks for sharing and documenting the process.
no worries man! glad somebody got enjoyment out of it! It's a part of the fade contest so there will be a final album at the 6 month that I'll post as well, presumably I'll be wearing them even less by the time the contest hits and it gets really warm and such.
My Gustin IndigoxIndigo pair just started to form a hole in the crotch/butt area, they have really nice fades and are still virgin from touching water, so I think I'm going to soak them and then send them out for darning and reinforcement.
TLDR: Because me jawnz are out of commission I ordered three more pair today.
3 more? Nice. What did you get?
Damn what'd you order?
From ebay Gustin Cone Pima Fire, from Gustin's site their GrayxBlue they just closed funding on, and trying to get third pair today off Male FashionMarket (more Gustins). Also I promise I'm not a Gustin fucboi but they are the only brand that fits my waist and thighs so I appreciate their products a lot.
How you fix a hole in the crotch?
Send them to a repair shop that can darn them.
Like a seamstress or alteration shop ?
You should find a RW or similar store and give them a try. Don't knock it till you give it a chance. You might be surprised how versatile engy boots are.
What do they offer that a lace up boot wouldn't offer me in terms of aesthetics though? I don't really care all that much about ease of putting them on, I don't mind spending the 30 seconds-minute lacing up. Personally I think they look unbalanced without laces to my eyes, granted they're hidden under a pair of pants, but in general I think an outfit will look better with a lace up replacing a pair of engineers, unless you're riding a motorcycle.
So, shoes aren't my only hobby/obsession. I have several. One repeated occurrence in my hobbies is that there is something within it that I really don't get why other people like it. It would just seem ugly to me.
Over years, as I kept seeing it over and over, eventually my opinion turned to "I guess it's okay" and eventually to "holy shit, that is beautiful." It's happened several times, and I've found the more of a 'chance' I'd give those items, the faster that process would happen.
I'm just saying that you say you don't like it now, but give it a chance. You may hate it til the day you die, but you never know - they end up being your grail boots in a few years.
that has in fact happened with several pairs of shoes. Certain chelseas, certain jodhpurs. That doesn't mean I think I could wear these. Despite the fact that I think that these can be beautiful types of shoes, I wouldn't buy them and wear them for a variety of reasons. At least not now. Maybe that changes in a couple of years. Maybe it doesn't. I'm familiar with that process though.