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r/DarkSouls2•
Marjask

PvP-wise, how much has changed since before the DLC?

PVP

I'm on the verge of purchasing the DLC+SotFS, used to play this game a massive amount, and though PvP had its elations, there were some agonizing things with it. I was wondering if they'd since fixed things any.

  • Is the Monastery Scimitar still god-tier for parries?
  • Do you still get the same number of i-frames when playing 30 fps and 60 fps?
  • Do you still get those infuriating hit-confirm sounds when it turns out you didn't hit them? (Used to use the Greatsword, they'd backroll and I'd blatantly hit them with sound and everything, no damage or flinch)

I did see that they added a ring that allows you to fix soul memory, though, so that looks absolutely fantastic.

Posted Apr 6, 2015, 8:42 AM UTC

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samper_[SotFS] Superior Japanese Counter Strength•

I'm on the verge of purchasing the DLC+SotFS

I'm not sure if you know so just in case, SotFS already comes with the DLC, you don't need to buy it separately.

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LucioX580•

1.No, the best parry choices are the parrying dagger or shields like Watcher's and Llewellyn.

2.Yes.

3.Yes it still happens, it can happen even if you use the chaos blade, you lose 50HP but you don't do damage.

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Icymountain•

The chaos blade thing isn't the same problem. As long as the blade touches the character, you lose 50 hp, no matter whether the character is actually hit or not. You even lose 50 hp when breaking furniture. It's not a problem with the netcode (reluctant to use this word, but can't think of something better) thingie thing.

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Foffy123•

wheel? wheel...

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tommytanker121•

You also see a lot of DLC weapons in PvP matches. Loyce Greatswords, Fume Sword, etc, etc.

You also see more lighter builds to incorporate the Flynns ring which gives you extra 50 AR if you stay below 14 VIT

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AudioBoss•

Ice Rapier is used quite a lot for casters

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[deleted]•

Can someone explain why you'd use Flynn's if Mundane gives a larger boost from putting the skill above 14? I mean Mundane gives 140 AR for 15 VIT.

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T3h_Prager•

Well, it's because you lose out on a lot of base damage with Mundane.

You can use them both together though. At all stats at 20, Flynn's still gives +30 AR, which really isn't bad at all.

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BlackCoffeeAU.•

Can someone tell me more about this ring?

Thanks

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Mohl97•

It prevents you from gaining souls while equipped, and is sold by Straid for 5000 souls. That's literally it.

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BlackCoffeeAU.•

That's the best thing ever. Is low level invading now viable?

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BrushmanTyrant•

You need a minimum of 30000 soul memory to buy it, but other than that, you can cap your SM at any given tier afterward for it, and any level you want. You'll still run into higher leveled players and other twinks, but if you min/max and optimize, you can still pull off some crazy low level builds.

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BlackCoffeeAU.•

Thanks for the reply.

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Mohl97•

Kinda. It still takes up a ring slot though, and you lose the ability to restock on consumables if you run out.

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Kraxizz•

Can just trade down from other chars if you have friends.

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Icymountain•

  • Monscim was nerfed, equal to other scimitars now.

  • iFrames are the same, but due to more frames passing per second, invulnerability time is halved.

  • Yes. Hit sounds seem to be on your side, but actually hitting them seems to depend on whether they were in a state of invuln when they received the hit on their side.

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DamnNoHtmltwitch.tv/scottjund•

2 is completely wrong. You're invulnerable for the same time at 30 or 60.

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MarjaskOP•

Has this been completely confirmed? If so, that's pretty nice to know someone else won't be getting double the invuln time just because they locked their game to 30.

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DamnNoHtmltwitch.tv/scottjund•

It's been confirmed since like last year.

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Icymountain•

Are you sure? Logically, if the amount of iFrames don't change, you'd have half the invincibility time at 60fps as compared to 30fps. It's similar to the durability bug, where stuff like this is locked to framerate.

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DamnNoHtmltwitch.tv/scottjund•

It was tested a month or two after the game came out. The only reason the claim even came up in the first place was because people didn't know what AGL did.

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Icymountain•

Doesn't AGI provide more iFrames?

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