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absolutezero132

New player looking for resources

I'm pretty new to mtg. Been playing standard for a few months now, but really want to get into edh. That said, I'd mostly be playing at the shop, and I have no idea what their meta is like. I know the standard meta is pretty cutthroat, so I'd like to err on the side of not getting crushed, so I'm trying to find some competitive lists. However, it's really hard to sort through the lists scattered throughout the net. It's hard for me to tell what decks are legitimately good and which are casual fun decks.

That said, does anyone have any good resources for tried and tested edh decks? Do you guys have any deck lists of your own that you'd like to share for a newer player?

Posted Apr 13, 2015, 8:38 PM UTC

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DeadAnthony•

A pretty good but by no means definitive discussion of tier 1 commanders

Keep in mind, some commanders are better suited for 1v1 as opposed to multiplayer. This is mostly true of voltron decks that want to win with commander damage. Combo decks, on the other hand, are good at killing the whole table at once. If you're not sure what the meta is like, I'd recommend finding a deck that can live happily at any table. Combo decks like [[Arcum Dagsson]] and [[Oona, Queen of the Fae]] or lock down decks like [[Zur the Enchanter]] and [[Derevi, Empyrial Tactician]] are good bets.

Finally, all of your decisions will be dependent on which ban list is being used (French or US), so when you start doing your research, make sure you choose a commander that's competitively viable in that format.

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MTGCardFetcher•

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#### Arcum Dagsson - Gatherer, MC, ($), edhrec
Derevi, Empyrial Tactician - Gatherer, MC, ($), edhrec
Oona, Queen of the Fae - Gatherer, MC, ($), edhrec
Zur the Enchanter - Gatherer, MC, ($), edhrec
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SkulothZur•

Zur is usually better off being played as an ad nauseam deck. Zur and Oona are generally very similar decks actually.

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SkulothZur•

Here's my Oona list

She aims to generate infinite mana and deck people with Oona. Average cmc is 1.32 so ad nauseam usually draws about 20-30 cards. Generally she will goldfish a win in the turn 4-6 range.

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DeadAnthony•

you should check out r/CompetitiveEDH as well.

Check what out now?

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Swift2210•

There are some helpful EDH primers on mtgsalvation. Most of them are closer to 5/10 on a scale of competitiveness but they provide a good starting point for new players.

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absolutezero132OP•

That's sort of my point. I can go seemingly anywhere on the net and find 5/10 decklists. I want to see 9/10 decklists.

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KnyteTech•

1v1 or Multiplayer?

1v1: Geist of Saint Traft, Tasigur (I like Mimeoplasm or Damia better, but it's whatever), Nin the pair artist. Griselbrand. Vendilion Clique. Prossh. maybe Narset. I've also seen a few really powerful Varolz the Scar-Striped decks that I'd put in this power group.

Multiplayer: Prossh, Oona, Narset, Ghave, Derevi, Mimeoplasm (variants can be made with Jarad), Animar, Damia.

Realistically, if you sink the money into it and you build a really cohesive deck, there are a TON of commanders that can come out of nowhere and win tournaments. The meta in commander can be very cut-throat, but since it's such a huge pool of cards to play from, and it's singleton, there's a LARGE number of correct answers to build around.

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PistolMancerThadaStealsYourSoul(ring)•

You just listed 4 non competitive non tier 1 generals..awkward

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PistolMancerThadaStealsYourSoul(ring)•

Yes that specific play is cutthroat but the deck or general isn't. It's more of a "cute" general because what happens when it just gets countered or removed? You have a deck full of extremely high cmc creatures or something. it just own't be consistent enough. Some of my fav tier 1s include; [[azami lady of scrolls]] [[animar soul of elements]] [[derevi empyrical tactician]] and [[karador ghost chieftain]]

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#### animar soul of elements - Gatherer, MC, ($), edhrec
azami lady of scrolls - Gatherer, MC, ($), edhrec
derevi empyrical tactician - Gatherer, MC, ($), edhrec
karador ghost chieftain - Gatherer, MC, ($), edhrec
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Korvasomali•

Only Narset is truly godtier deck of those you mentioned. Uril and Kaalia are nowhere near tier 1 because they are not resilient or consistent. Wanderer is too random for my tastes but the sheer power of value lifts him up a tier. Oh and about that play with Master of Cruelties, it is lethal instantly with Kaalia. Zur, Arcum, Azami, Narset, Tasigur and Damia are top tier to name a few.

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SkulothZur•

I personally think Damia has fallen from top tier and has been replaced with tasigur.

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SkulothZur•

Oona, Nin, Prossh, and Jeleva are also top tier.

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fragaandre•

ent or consistent. Wanderer is too random for my tastes but the sheer power of value lifts him up a tier. Oh and about that play with Master o

Do you really dont think Geist or Tasigur tier 1 ?

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SkulothZur•

Narset and Wanderer are both tier 1 generals. The other two not so much.

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razzlioxJarad Ooze Combo•

I think you'd be surprised at Kaalia's speed. I usually consider her on the low end of tier one, maybe high end of tier two. The deck's best strategy is to dump Avacyn, then cast Armageddon.

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SkulothZur•

She can have very strong plays. But even her most 'degenerate' plays will only kill 1 player at a time. Also people should be able to fight through at least 1 armageddon.

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BigLupuHe who combos second, wins.•

Good luck playing Kaalia in a competive multiplayer environment, its rare to ever get to attack with Kaalia if you cant get it haste. The 1HKO possibility makes it a horrible deck to play multiplayer. "Kaalia is out again, anyone got a target removal so we can go back to playing real magic?" Kaalia is ok in 1v1 since you can ramp hard with Moxes and lotus petals and take out threats with hand hate, but sacrificing CA for speed is NOT a solid cource of play in multiplayer. Same weaknesses as Arcum, but without the strenghts. Trash Tier.

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