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r/SmokerHate•
RustonStrong

Why do people hire smokers?

So the company I work for recently moved my small department to a different location. I went from a location where pretty much nobody smokes to one where pretty much EVERYBODY (except for me and 2 others) smokes.

Good gracious it is hard to get anything done. literally EVERY time I need to get with anyone, they are out back taking a smoke break. tasks that should take half a day now take full 2 days simply because i have to wait for someone to finish their cancer stick before I can get the data I need.

this is so frustrating.

Posted May 16, 2015, 8:52 PM UTC

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FiliaProba•

The worst thing is when they drag normal people out with them. So many times, I've found myself in a group of people in the cold, and asked "What are we doing here? Shouldn't we get moving? There's a big table free just inside," and I realise that there are a couple of smokers in the group who can't go inside, and the rest of the group is indulging them by all standing outside. Why do smoker scum get to veto entrance into a location? The normal people should just go right ahead, and the smokers should be left behind feeling rejected. We are too fucking nice to smokers. They have no consideration for us: we should have even less for them.

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stevebroschemi•

because they should be able to smoke inside but laws are dumb

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aussie-aussie-aussie•

I don't. I don't hire fat people either.

Like it or not, I also don't hire anyone with a hair do that needs any product each day or excessive makeup.

It's superficial, however it works for my business. In the early days until I learned how to hire properly, I had to fire quite a few people, however I haven't fired anyone in the last 6 or 7 years because I none of my staff smoke, ever want to get pregnant or are fat and lazy.

There's more to a good employee than not smoking but it's a significant part of it.

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sailirish7•

ever want to get pregnant

LOL...seriously?

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aussie-aussie-aussie•

Yeah - lets discuss this seriously - about one in 10 or 20 women in their 20's don't want kids. I am lucky in that I employ half a dozen who don't want kids. I pay minimum award wage plus large bonuses to everyone who has stayed with me for an uninterrupted period of time.

Australia is has tough rules for employers and it's really difficult to keep a small business running since our minimum pay is so high. I pay 50% of my company's profits and split it based on a formula for my staff who have been with me for over 2 years, increasing in percentage for who's been here longer. My longest employed staffer earns over AUD$120k with bonuses. She is 36 and has been with me since the beginning and knows my company almost as well as I do.

I've once had to pay for maternity leave and the bitch left after I paid about $15k for her leave, including replacement temp staffers, covering sick leave and various other absences after only 3 or 4 years of employment. Now my employment contracts are written to favour anyone who retains an extended uninterrupted duration of employment.

Fuck smokers and pregnancy's.

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aussie-aussie-aussie•

Common response from smokers who don't get a second interview, or get hired and take many breaks on company time, then pollute the air for healthy people.

They don't pass probation and I let them go.

Good luck buddy.

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aussie-aussie-aussie•

No.

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ArnoSchwarzenegger•

I feel you. And because there are so many of them, you can't do anything against it. I guess the only thing you can do is wait until they die off...

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74orangebeetlemuh eciggs•

Most of my smoking co-workers are much more concerned about getting their cigarettes than they are about getting their work done.

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RustonStrongOP•

Most? i'm not sure i have ever had a smoking coworker that was more concerned about work than their next puff. in my experience ALL of my smoking coworkers are more concerned about their next break than about work.

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sailirish7•

Because you can't fire someone for smoking. They would have no way of knowing provided the guy practices good hygiene before the interview

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mikejmarvin•

The 20 breaks a day that nonsmokers don't get

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RustonStrongOP•

sometimes the simplest answer is the right one. i think you hit the correct answer here.

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sydbarrett•

In some states, Minnesota for example, are employment at will states. You can fire someone for no reason at all. Technically, you could fire someone for smoking.

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sailirish7•

Of course, they could still sue for discrimination though

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turtlesarepurevil•

What discrimination? I don't think smoking is protected under discrimination acts like transgender people aren't right now (could be wrong about that).

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sailirish7•

Unless you live in a "right to work" state, they need to have cause to fire you. Being a smoker is not cause.

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stevebroschemi•

Why? Because theyre people.

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