SHODAN Announcer Pack - DOTA2 - HUD - Update!

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SHODAN Announcer Pack - DOTA2 - HUD - Update!

Posted Jun 9, 2015, 10:15 PM UTC

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pripyat_beastOP•

We're back with another update! This time gaze upon our glorious HUD, insects! There is a subtle and unsettling green glow that fades in and out. Everything is going really well, the courier and wards are being animated, and 700+ lines are currently being recorded. It's quite the effort, but one worth waiting for.

Original thread with links to other updates

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gh_st_ry•

I love this pack and I love what you are doing!

http://i.imgur.com/clU9KF7.png That said your SHODAN portrait is reeeeally far from the mark.

There's no contrast on the face, she looks completely flat. Look how the original has lighting on the forehead, lips, cheeks, and nose. Your version is lit from below and the sides which changes the appearance completely. This gives her tiny eyes and an emotionless little mouth, she's supposed to be vaguely smiling and staring lasers at you not going "if my face had lighting you'd be scared right now"

I'm definitely buying the announcer but as a System Shock fan there's no way I'd use this HUD. The portrait just looks too wack.

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DeadSnarkEnjoy your extra 30 seconds in limbo•

I did think that the SHODAN image looked off, but I couldn't really put it into words before. I should also add that the HUD!SHODAN seems to have slightly rounder, human-like face and indistinct flame eyes as opposed to Original!SHODAN's inhuman pointy chin and glowing, lizard-like eyes; the way the HUD face blends in with the background due to its colour scheme also makes her look a bit less intimidating and a bit more like part of the scenery- although that may have been part of the original intention.

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Chicken1337•

It's supposed to look sharp, dangerously elegant, and vaguely unsettling, with that subtle half-smile. The new face's lighting and apparent roundness detract too much from that. The eyes are also too indistinct, lacking that reptilian gaze.

Basically, minor twists and tweaks to the original to "modernize" it a tad would be perfect. Her original face is good as is anyway.

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boazzang322 322n 322ed•

ur desc makes me wanna play system shock and get to know shodan...

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the_dunce•

you really, really should

system shock 2 is an amazing game and it aged pretty well

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TarBarrel•

Agree on shape of the face, disagree on colour and contrast - it is a HUD, it is supposed to be in background and not-distracting

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pripyat_beastOP•

Thanks for the critique - this is something we're still discussing. As a HUD element we decided to keep everything subdued so as not to become distracting while playing - her face is right next to the portrait of the hero and we didn't want to compete with that.

I can understand your concern about the facial features and the structure of her face as well. When creating the idea behind this we decided that SHODAN was slowly corrupting and invading the game and would be re-assuming the identity of a malevolent AI, but the environment, characters and art style of DOTA are so dramatically different than SS2 we believed it could warrant a slight change in appearance as well. We "DOTAized" her to where we felt she retained the same ominous presence, but changed her enough so that she blended more evenly with the world and aesthetics of DOTA. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this, we'll definitely take it into consideration!

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iNen1El Toco Loco•

I think you should consider redesigning her to look a little more menacing at least, if you don't want to stay true to the original. I mean, when you compare them in the above image, the right one looks actually terrifying while the left one looks like a thumbnail of an EDM youtube mix.

Speaking of the HUD in general, i think you should use the texture of the cables in SHODAN's portrait for the majority of the HUD skin. Looking at her face in the HUD, it kinda feels just pasted in there, like a painting in a frame. By expanding the cables through the whole HUD it would have much more synergy i feel like.

Also, a quick question. There is a HUD called Dragonscale, it's quite an oldie and doesn't look so good anymore, but what i liked about it, is that it's animated somewhat. Watch the Dragons head, next to the hero portrait. Could you do something like that with SHODANs face? Where she has those green pulses coming and going on her face like in the original game?

I like your work so far, hope you can make it even better than it is now.

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pripyat_beastOP•

Yes, our HUD does glow and pulse like that around her face and else where. Thanks for your suggestions!

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gh_st_ry•

If they were able to have the pulsing effect for the background SHODAN that would be amazing, but I'm not holding my breath

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rawros2•

I hope they listen to you.

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Ackyroth•

Your artistic critique is appreciated by someone uneducated in the arts, thank you.

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somethingToDoWithMe•

For anyone curious about the 700 lines and the comparison with other announcer packs. A picture from when the Clockwerk announcer came out shows the number of lines per announcer pack. It doesn't include the Stanley Parable however.

Otherwise, do you guys have an ETA for the announcer pack? I'm psyched for it.

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pripyat_beastOP•

Thanks for posting this - writing and then recording 700+ lines is no joke! We were aiming to have the whole pack done in time for TI5, but had some E3 related delays. Our ETA is August, though because of TI we may wait until the dust settles and aim for the beginning of November.

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KolbStomp•

Thank you for continuously updating us! This pack will definitely be a day 1 purchase for me as soon as it hits the store.

EDIT: I'm definitely going to be patient! A lot has to go into that Announcer, editing 700 lines to sound like the original SHODAN will take some serious work, shout out to the Sound Designer handling all that!

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Sedition7988•

700 lines? You've got my shekels. There's nothing I hate more than buying an announcer pack, only to find it barely has any lines, and thus, lacks any sort of personality to it, just being an awkward default announcer with a different voice. I love the Stanley and Bastion announcers because even after these hundreds of hours of owning them, I'm still occasionally met with lines I've never heard before.

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Rilgon•

Oh god, please make it sooner rather than later. The waiting is unbearable. :(

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bubblebooy•

Some googling found that Stanley Parable is around 642 lines.

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BackupusernameKnight in blackest armor•

That's a bit surprising, but then I think about how long they are, I wouldn't be surprised if there's more total audio in the Stanley Parable pack than in the Bastion one.

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OrlandoNEI stride the terrene plane in search of dank maymays•
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muhpreciousmmrthis game is shit•

And this is why the Bastion Announcer is still the king. He's got so many quips for the most random actions in the game. I can't wait to hear Shodan :D

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StrangeMeetsEvil•

i know i need to make it my last one when i get to hero select and the bastion guy says, "do you know how late it is?"

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mynamejesse1334•

You know you work nights when he says that for my first game after getting home

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Yalla_3ad•

doesn't include pirate announcer either.

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Nemelon•

How are you guys going to get the rights for this ? It is nearly impossible.

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LazyFigure•

It's being made by Night Dive Studios, who currently own the rights.

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Nemelon•

Cool. Didn't think that was possible because of the problematic copyright status. I'll buy this. :D Are they going to get Terri Brosius to voice her ?

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LazyFigure•

Yep. They're working with Terri Brosius and her husband Eric Brosius, the sound engineer from System Shock 2. I assume Eric's responsible for that voice distortion we all know and love.

All info and updates are here: http://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/2e8bdp/official_system_shock_2_shodan_announcer_pack_in/

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Terrafros•

This is great. I'll be getting this bundle day 1. Thanks for your efforts in making this happen!

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geoffwastaken•

Oh my... There will be a courier and wards too? Take all my fucking money!

That said, I agree with other comments about her face in the HUD. Needs to be more in line with the original.

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baxterg13•

My only wish is that you make it so the hud doesn't look broken or choppy if we have the mini map switched to the left. A few good huds have lost their touch when this switch is made, and I dont think a lot of designers think about those of us who have switched.

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bubbleosix•

Is there any way you could release all of the SHODAN voice clips in a zip file or something? There are endless uses for that voice in games.

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Anon159023•

Great job with the hud! though I feel something slightly feels off with the left face, I still love it overall and can see the case for that face.

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KillburndeluxeThe GRRRRrrrRRrrrRRrrRRrrRrRrRrrAND MAGUS!•

My only concern is to have a clear indicator wheel for the Day/Night cycle. It just looks like a blob of micro-chip mess looking at the screenshot.

Lessen the whole "inverted color mirror image" theme. Go with something that takes up less space. A tiny microchip in the middle of each semicircle and some semicircle connections stemming out from the chip would be a suggestion.

Also the top wires are off-putting for some reason. How about trying to reduce the number of wires and then just making them thicker.

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C00l_Guy•

HEY! Add in some Tsundere lines if the player is doing really well. Do it.

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SuperPurohttp://steamcommunity.com/id/PuroYO•

What relation does this HUD have to do with SHODAN?

Just wondering.

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Thorne_OzNyx? Nyx.•

Uh.. The entire theme? The announcer will be SHODAN? There's SHODAN'S face ON the HUD?

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SuperPurohttp://steamcommunity.com/id/PuroYO•

That face has what correlation to martial arts..?

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MrTso•

system shock

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ULTRATEDDYISREADYTHE BOYS IN BLUE•

SHODAN is the malevolent AI villain in System Shock 2, that is her face: http://images.bit-tech.net/content_images/2010/02/your-favourite-game-was-rubbish/deus_ex_was_rubbish_10.jpg

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Abdulaziz679•

Are you trying to make a funny?

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mattbrvcDING DING DING DING WIN THE LOTTO•

It's slick, no bullshit HUD. I might consider buying this.

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rrravenred•

Along with this we need:

  • Cyber Assassin set for Bounty Hunter
  • Rumbler set for Tiny (including Crystal Shard Aghs upgrade)
  • Psi-Monkey set for Meepo
  • Many infected set for Undying (Tombstone set spawns zombies moaning "Kill me")
  • Arachnid set for Broodmother (instead of spiderlings, annelids)
  • Psi-Reaver Set for Outworld Devourer

Make it so, Reddit.

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ExtraCheesyPieHey sexy boi•

Give TA a Psi Blade!

Wait...

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BellisColdwine•

Alternate Cyborg Midwife voice pack for Brood.

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Gboon•

The face looks really off, like those dvds with offbrand versions of Pixar movies made in russia.

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the_dunce•

Seriously. This looks absolutely nothing like Shodan.

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Sharpwnt111•

I'd like to see them HD Remake System Shock 2 after this.

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pripyat_beastOP•

What about an HD remake of System Shock?

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LazyFigure•

I'll even take a System Shock 2 remake of System Shock.

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Sharpwnt111•

Didn't get a chance to play System Shock, I only played SS2 after playing all of Ken Levine's games (Bioshock series). SS2 is actually amazing but it is riddled with clunky movement and combat. Also, the ending is =.=

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HornyHeracross•

There was something wrong with the ending? Nah.

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YourTormentIs•

If it's any consolation, according to interviews with the crew, it wasn't the ending originally intended for the game.

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Xzow•

The ending of SS2 was amazing.

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SirKlokkworkAntom oush mikhabi estatia!•

How about pretty much any new game that has some combination of "system", "shock" and some numbers?

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Sharpwnt111•

You must be talking about its spiritual successor bioshock :) Its got shock and lots of numbers, but I'd avoid #2

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C00l_Guy•

Is this actually real??? Because I'm already panting and sweating as I run through corridors in anticipation.

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BeBenNova•

Holy shit this HUD is absolutely gorgeous

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TheAnchor4237•

10/10 would buy

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PapstJL4Udeadliest pornstar http://goo.gl/7dmUjL•

mooooottheer :D

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Outhouse_Defiler#VoteShoulders .. err I mean #VoteQoP•

The hud is too bright for me, but can't wait for the actual announcer.

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pripyat_beastOP•

The screenshot is when the glow is 100%, I'll post another with the glow at 0%

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busterossthe very much most bestest hero•

What's with the glow, does it change during the game ? I love this so much and SS2 is one of my favorite game of all time, it's an instant buy from me!

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mattlight07•

If you look closely at most HUDs, even the default HUD, it glows, gradually, then goes dark again. The transition is subtle, you almost don't notice it.

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StanwellQuality•

Please take my money!!

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DotANote•

I would kill for a sneak peek of the announcer.

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STEALTHM0UNTAIN•

Do you mean 'Sneak Peek'?

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DotANote•

Yeah, thanks

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STEALTHM0UNTAIN•

Do you mean 'Sneak Peek'?

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DeadSnarkEnjoy your extra 30 seconds in limbo•

"When the history of my glory is written, your middle tower will be but a footnote to my magnificence."

Needless to say, I am super excited for this announcer pack!

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xatrixx•

Serious question here:

I am one of those guys that still use the default HUD but I'd totally use this, it's huge.

My only concern: Isn't a small portion of the minimap covered by the HUD (top left corner)?

Is it still possible to change this? This HUD looks so awesome but I'm slightly concerned about this.

Please correct me if I'm totally overextending!

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pripyat_beastOP•

At this stage it is possible to change this and something I'll look into. Thanks for noticing!

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xatrixx•

Thank you. This is crazy amount of customer support.

First day purchaser here.

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xSora08•

The HUD and announcer pack we deserve, and certainly the one we need right now!

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Reds994MY WEB TWITCHES•

This is awesome! Can we get a sample of the announcer? Also maybe add some white to the face on the hud, give it that classic look of the cover, right now it kind of blends in with the wires. Love it so far, day 1 buy for me.

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EnceladeansYOUR COMEUPPANCE•

L-l-look at you, ganker.

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Im_Nublet27•

wow..includes a HUD. AWESOME!

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BellisColdwine•

whiffs ravage

"Y-y-your incompetence continues to astound me. Must I watch you every step of the w-w-waaaaAAAYYY...?"

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BellisColdwine•

The Jakiro form is dead, insect. Are you afraid?

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