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Thank Your Old Man Today

Men's Rights

Today's Father's Day, at least in the US.

As I walked in my local supermarket the last week, I think I may have seen one teeny, tiny sign proclaiming father's day. As opposed to the endless bombardment on the more female-centric holidays such as Mother's Day or Valentine's Day -- where Men are bombarded with propaganda to adore and serve the women in their life and buy the next round of useless shit for them. Somehow the consumerism doesn't really go all out the other way.

Looking back, I think every former boy fortunate enough to have a decent dad can really see how their fathers sacrificed for them behind the scenes. I thought my mom was awesome growing up, she always sympathized when there was cause to complain and had an open ear... but now I notice she never really did much, beyond nurturing, to improve the situation even though she was around a lot more. It's like she took all the practice she had from listening to her girl friends bitch and complain about various things when growing up and applied that skillset to her kids. But had nothing to teach beyond that.

But Dad, he either told me to STFU if it was my stupid ass whining about stupid shit, or taught me to fix it myself if it was something worthwhile. Sometimes I really resented shit like that at the time; my feels were important to me and self-sufficiency wasn't fun at that age - things were supposed to get magically fixed. The type of nonsense the world knocks out of you fast if you're unprepared - say within a system given participation trophies growing up.

Fathers are really the unsung hero of modernity. Studies after studies show how kids develop much more positively with a father in their life. Instead, since the 60s at least, the government incentivizes women away from seeking stable husbands. Fathers play the fool in most sitcoms. Single mothers are endlessly praised for their shitty choices.

Anyway, just a reminder, whether redpill or not, if your dad was a positive force in your life - give him a call and thank him.

Last thoughts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7W9jDGfmKw

Posted Jun 21, 2015, 4:49 PM UTC

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Derbi50•

Also if you still have a grand pappy call him up and tell him your respect for him.

I lost my last grand pappy this year who was truly a man among boys. WWII fighter pilot, engineer, built his own house, married for like 55 years and maintained frame like a master even into his 90s.

Those old timers were steeped in the good old days and you can learn so much about being a solid stoic man just by hanging/going fishing with them or whatever.

I miss you grand pappy.

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QuantifiedDisgust•

My grandparents raised me when my feminist hippie nutbag mother couldn't hack it. Thank god for my grandfather. He's too stoic to even respond to my adulation with anything more than a gruff laugh and "I've had enough of this." Ninety five and still sharp. Memories of finding those photos of you with the naked island girls from the Navy will always make me laugh. "Well I wasn't married at the time." Gave me the red before I was ready but I'm glad he stuck around long enough to hear otherwise. Thanks pops, it's all thanks to you.

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battery_licker•

My biggest regret in life so far was refusing to listen to my father's woman advice when I was in high school. Turns out the old man is incredibly red pill without knowing it's a "thing". I could have had such a head start if I had shut my stupid mouth and listened to him once in a while.

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Ounumen•

Yup same here. When my dad died I remember his funeral packed full of all of his ex girlfriends. My brother and I were like damn dad laid some pipe after mom split!

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Tailback•

+2 Dad told me to nail everything and anything in High School. Instead I got oneitis and missed out on some good times.

When my Mom died the exes were after him like crazy.

He was wise beyond his years and a heck of a good man. All my friends loved him as much as I do. Father's Day is a sad one for me.

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runcannyvalley•

Reminds me of a quote by Mark Twain. "When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years."

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OncewasaBlastocoel•

My dad gave me shit advice. At 21 he told me to "It's time to PICK ONE"

I only can thank my OWN WITS that I didn't listen to him.

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tiny_warlock•

you're one of the lucky ones. my dad was always up my mom's ass and so scared to speak his mind about anything for fear of being punished somehow. looking back, a lot of my problems with women (and even problems I've had interacting with other men) probably stem from having such a bad example back at home. thankfully I found this sub and have been working on improving my sense of who I am.

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Morholt_dhu•

I empathize with that. My mum was always a solipsistic shrew and my dad never stands up for himself, although they are separated now.

I really wonder what happened because my memories of my paternal grandfather are of a self-assured and warm masculine presence. He was a Navy man and taught me as a child my love of classical music and European literature.

From the narratives I hear from my father about his upbringing, his mother was something of a shrew, and he was the youngest and only male of several children. Even now my aunts regurgitate alot of Liberal party-line bullshit. I really wonder why my father is the way he is despite the man my grandfather seems to be.

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FelixCopy•

The red pill isn't a thing it's simply conventional wisdom.

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PowerValve•

Disparaged and condemned by the masses.

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RoadToOneFifty•

My dad can fuck off. He's a piece of shit.

(I get the point you're making, though.)

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Focusi•

I used to think the same but then I realized it was because my mother had conditioned me to think so. But then again I'm sure you have your reasons

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mikeshinobi•

Check your dad-having privilege... ;_;

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vandaalenEndorsed Contributor•

Yes.

Thanks dad for trying to stay away from your family as much as possible, prefering to spend your free time with your buddies in the pub, getting drunk, over spending it with your two boys.

Thanks for being an unmotivated and hungover asshole the rest of your time. Thanks for all the beatings I recieved for playing too loud when you slept away your jag until noon. Thanks for all the other beatings which you considered to be top-notch upbringing.

Thanks for teaching me to keep my fucking mouth shut instead of standing up for myself.

Thanks for putting the burden of properly raising my brother and me solely on my mother. Making us grow up without a proper male role model.

Thanks for being absent whenever I could have needed you. Thanks for all the good advice consiting mostly of "you are just such an idiot" and "don't repeat my mistake and have children".

Thanks for the 35 year long disorientation, the search for my purpose as a male, the severe depressions, the devestating abuse of alcohol and drugs and my futile attempts to find happiness and sense.

Thanks dad.

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2commentOPEndorsed Contributor•

Awww shit, sorry to hear that. So many of my friends had that same problem growing up. Best friend right up the road, his dad killed his liver with the stuff and died at 38 and now he's is fucked up too. Wasn't even his mother in his life, she abandoned them earlier, just his grandmother.

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vandaalenEndorsed Contributor•

Nothing to feel sorry for. Thanks anyways. I wouldn't be who I am if my biography would have been differently and frankly said I learned to like myself a lot.

I took some work and there are of course moments where I wished I would have been dealt better cards in my life, but meh, I can't change it anyways. I can only make a change to the future.

There's no gain to find in grieving about the past and although I phrased it in a way which makes it appear differently, I actually forgave my father a long time ago. In fact I even pity him for all he missed out on since I am a father - of a daughter though - for myself now and the most quality time I spend is with my child.

Since she was also the initial reason for me to finally get my life together I can safely say that she made me a better man.

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Angry_Landwhale•

Isn't there another part of the internet where you can spew this weak diarrhea? You can emo rage against pops on basically any other place except this one. Because you chose this for your soapbox I have to say that I'm sure you were his biggest disappointment.

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makethemsayayySpecial Olympian •

I agree, bitch about your fathers another time.

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theultmatecad1•

Spent the day with my family and at the end of it my elementary school boy asked me if I "got to do everything I wanted to" that day.

Daughters and wife were nice.. they got me cards and said nice things but guess whose world doesn't revolve around self and is capable of thinking of others--- the boy.

Im gonna make sure he grows up and never needs to "unplug". His awareness will precede Jr High

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SheepKing•

My dad was a shrimp blue pilled faggot. I still like him.

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wolfraisedbysheep•

Deep life lessons from my dad:

"Please don't do that thing that annoys your mother, so I don't have to put up with her throwing another temper tantrum."

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Suravira•

Depends, some people's parents really aren't positive influences in their life.

That being said I bought my RP/MGTOW father a crate of beer, some bratwurst and the chestnut mushrooms he likes.

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RedPillDadEndorsed Contributor•

I scored some Bailey's (drinking some now) and bacon-infused peanut brittle (surprisingly good), and the day's not over...

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Redpillc0re•

While i do love and respect my father (and everyones fathers) i find this whole "let's have a day in the year to celebrate X" pretentious. Your father should know if you love him or not. Learn from him and respect him every day .

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Derbi50•

I hear your point but I think holidays are fun.

St. Patricks day is supposed to be about Irish pride. Its really about getting drunk and carousing.

Halloween is supposed to be about taking time to respect your dead ancestors/harvesting stuff. Its just an excuse for girls to turn of ASD for a night.

Fourth of July is supposed to be about American independence. Its really about blowing shit up and partying with your bros.

Birthdays are an excuse to get drunk for free, Mothers day is about going to visit your mother and let her cook a meal for you, and fathersday is about spending time with your father.

I see them as a good thing and a good excuse to do things you might not otherwise feel comfortable doing.

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juliusstreicher•

Mine died when I was 14. Worked out quite well. (for me)

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lcoyote•

Parents divorced when I was eight . Mom worked full time in grocery biz, kept me and 2 sisters housed, clothed, fed. When something broke she'd tell me to fix it, only when it was clear it was impossible for me to fix would she call someone (after much wailing and gnashing of teeth). When I would get beat up in jr. h.s. and h.s. and I'd come home whining she'd say "what do you expect me to do ?" I tried to enlist in the military at 17, she refused to sign the papers (toward the end of nam). "there's a war going on you idiot".Ended up going in at 18. Got in a major motorcycle wreck in my 20's. She took me in till I recovered, then kicked me out. She co-signed a loan for my first house (paid back every cent). She's getting up there now and I see her at least twice a week (taking care of sonny do's). Happy Fathers day Mom!

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Diarrhea_Van_Frank•

I think that for the majority of us here, if we had half way decent fathers, we wouldn't need TRP. Everything I've achieved in my life I've done in spite of my father's incessant mama's boy bitching, not because of his genius masculine wisdom.

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coolbird1•

They are even trying to turn fathers day into a female holiday. On Facebook I have seen many more "happy fathers day"s sent to single mothers than actual dads. Maybe I just need better friends.

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makethemsayayySpecial Olympian •

Unfucking-believable they have to make EVERYTHING about them.

I got into an argument with some idiot on r/futurology because they tried to claim "mens' birth control" was a woman's issue.

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locomotronn•

It depends, if it is the kids wishing their mothers happy fathers day I see nothing wrong with it. I wouldn't do it..just because, I just did not post anything on social media but I grew up without a father, and my step father was even worse. Total BP, never paid for anything of mine: my food, my school. my hobbies, etc etc..I had to pay for all my stuff since 12 with my mother helping..the guy is also retired making 200k+ year.

Even after that mom works 2 jobs, 8am-9pm or longer. She does not sleep, has health issues and goes through hell just to help me move on with my life and studies(I work also, but things get expensive)

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maggieG42•

Why was it necessary to put down women in order to thank your dad. and I must point out your dad and individual. As seen in many posts a lot of dads are actually not that good and they are individuals.

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2commentOPEndorsed Contributor•

The disparity between mother's day and father's day just gets to me. Used to work in a restaurant, the line out the door for mothers day was around 3x father's day more or less, and it lasted way longer. I would have thought it's equal.... but no.

I think it's a reflection on the whole men being there to serve women thing this culture has been narrating for a long time now. I wanted to point that out. Also, without my mom, I would have been sad growing up, but without my dad, I would have been up shit's creek in so many ways.

It's something I had to point out.

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Skica25•

I agree with OP. Go and thank him. I lost my father 11 years ago when i was 10 and it still hurts sometimes. Thank God that my granda was around till my 15 so he could give me some guidance. He was alfa as fuck. He never let anyone to disrespect him. He fought Germans in Prague uprising in WW2. Then had to take shit from comunists for 40 years cauz he never bowed to them. He had to leave his hometown because of them.

Still he raised my mother, best woman i know. She´s strong, smart (still AWALT though) and she did her best to raise me and my younger sister.

Thank God for him. I actually feel guilty sometimes because i never miss him like i miss my father but he made me more of a man than anybody else. I hope he can forgive me that cauz now i reliaze that he loved me more then my sister and i think even more then my mother. I guess i was that son he never had.

Thanks granda i love you. I hope you are watching me from heaven i´ll do my best to make you proud.

Be strong guys. Our sons will need it

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Versace_Potpie•

I told him "Happy Father's Day", more then he deserved. Never been a father to me, just a disciplinarian.

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