Why are you quitting? (I want try Kratom)

Since you seem to be an avid nofap guy, I'd mention that daily Kratom use murdered my sex drive after just a few months. Don't fuck with your dopamine receptors.

Providing this isn't a trollish post? the reason I ask is this is a QUITTING KRATOM forum---maybe your question is actually better suited for folks who are still in love with kratom. Didn't say it to sound bitchy, but we get quite a few trolls from the r/kratom forum here .

Here's a fantastic idea though….just go and read plenty of the threads here. You'll see exactly why we tried it, became insanely addicted,and then when it quit giving positive benefits it was a real bitch to quit…..that's it in a nutshell.

All that switching strain stuff isn't true and doesn't help to keep tolerance down for daily users….think about it…..your body is BRILLIANT. It absolutely WILL find baseline with this substance.

Please remove the first sentence about blowing the trigger and making a purchase. You have come to a recovery board asking about the positive aspects of the drug. Why did I start kratom? Because I was a hardcore heroin addict and it was my only hope of getting off of it. Kratom is not a joke, it's a powerful satellite opiate. If you are struggling with anxiety please see a psychiatrist or psychologist. If you absolutely need something to get rid of the anxiety ask them about Ssri drugs... Celexa or fluoxetine seem to be the best. I will allow this post to stay... But edit it and change the wording to that I is more consistent with this subreddit mission

Am i heading towards a slippery slope? Especially if I have intentions to use this drug daily if I truly do find the effects rewarding.

You have just described the beginning of the slope that brings many of us here. It seems great to start! Even just occasional use though is dangerous. It's seductive. You start to feel like "maybe two days in a row isn't bad, I have a job interview today!" or "I just kicked butt on my performance review, time to celebrate!" or even "I am less anxious, let's go out socialize!" Then you go out more but you need Kratom to keep up with the schedule...

Then it stops being as great, so you take more. Now you're probably getting tempted to use it a few times a week to daily. It's OK though, you haven't had the withdrawals yet. You think it's OK to moderate it, you're only taking a few grams a day, no big deal. If you have to withdraw, it's worth it for the social benefits.

Eventually even when you take large amounts, you still feel bad. Around 5-6 months later was when it happened to me.

I'm a biochem major. This is literally what I study for a career. I know exactly how it works, why I shouldn't... but it got me. You cannot outsmart it. It's not alive. You're fighting yourself, and it has EVERY advantage you have because it's your brain. PLUS you want to give in, so it has the edge over you. It always will. It's just a reality, and pardon the sweeping statement, but I genuinely doubt anyone possibly can fight it. It's just a matter of time, and kratom is immortal compared to you. It WILL win.

This is where people come here for help. Your body naturally de-regulates the opiate system because it's a survival mechanism. If you can't recognize pain or recognize it less, you could die from a wild predator or a cut or puncture wound in the jungle or something like that.

Our brains still think we're in the jungles/wilds after all. It's lame, Kratom would be amazing if it weren't for our bodies wanting to like, survive a cougar attack or whatever.

Hope this helps!

I agree with what the others said. The only legit uses I see for kratom are similar to other short acting opiates: to taper from a more serious opiate, or to take care of ACUTE (NOT chronic) pain. If you are addicted to h or oxy, kratom can be a godsend for many reasons.

Its hard to quantify how you would react to it. In this sub you will run into people who have all loved kratom and let it control them, in the other forum you will see people who love kratom and it hasn't (yet?) Got the best of them. There are also unrepresented groups such as people who don't like it much or find it displeasing, etc. However those distributions play out, I don't see a category of people who like it but also don't like it enough to do consistently. That was a little rambly but hopefully you understand.

Just as everyone else has said, it's really up to you but it's playing with fire. If you can handle very addictive things then sure, go ahead and try it. Maybe you wont get addicted. But is it really worth the 2-3 hour experience? There are so many other non-addictive herbs you could be experimenting with instead of kratom. Bali kava, passion flower, ashawaghanda, and valarian root are all great for anxiety. There are herbs out there for pretty much everything but kratom is the only one I can think of that produces opiate activity. Think of it this way, if heroin is like liquor then kratom is like beer--and I guess oxys and morphine would be like wine in comparison. Vicodin/percs/tramadol are very similar to the effects of kratom. Hard opiates are only a step or 2 up from k and anyone whose had an opiate addiction knows how easy it is to substitute one opiate for another...especially when you have to or be very very sick. I'm sure you're aware of this though. Anyway, I second all of the latter posts. I hope you really consider everyone's advice. None of us are here to hate kratom. It's just a very deceiving plant that fucked us all up in the long run. Good luck man

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Honestly, if you've come here with the intention of taking kratom, I doubt you will change your mind. All you have to do is read through the posts here to see how many lives have been affected.

It's great in the beginning, you'll think "man I'll never quit this is so good". But eventually it catches up with you and it won't be so good. You'll notice your life has gotten worse, not better and you'll start to wish you never started.

If you're like me you'll read all this and see that it's not a good idea logically to take it, but all you will see is the "It's great at the beginning" part and want to feel that, so you will take it despite the warnings. Which is fine, it's your choice and no one is telling you what to do. Do what you think is right.

On the one hand, it is an opiate (opioid?), and dependency is an inherent part of that class of drugs. People even get addicted to the least of them, lowly codeine. It is natural for people who are experiencing withdrawal symptoms to gather in groups and commiserate. This sub is a great help for these people who may have questions during a difficult time in their lives.

On the other hand, seeing as how kratom is a very viable alternative to prescription pharmaceuticals, and is a marketer's wet dream with all the different 'vein colors' and strains, I could easily see how half or more of the people on this sub are posting with an agenda, financial or otherwise.

I cannot speak on behalf of those who have made a conscious decision to quit kratom. My response is the response of someone who has successfully found a way to use kratom sporadically, in moderation. If not used consciously, wisely, carefully, and rather conservatively, chances are VERY high that you will get burned. Contrary to all the lies spouted by hardcore kratom users, kratom does indeed have some rather unpleasant withdrawal effects, and it can sneak up on you and cause a dependency rather quickly.

My advice to you is this: If you have experience setting a usage schedule AND you have proven to yourself that you can and will follow thru with it, then and only then would I suggest that you experiment with kratom. If you have any prior history of substance abuse of any kind, run away from kratom NOW.

its very addictive so watch your ass if you have the addictive type personality...or even if you don't. It will make you feel great for a few months or more or less..and then seems to cause apathy, lack of emotions, flatness.....and then when you want to stop it can be way more difficult than the pro K folks let on. IMHO.