Push/Pull/Legs vs. Starting Strength for a relative beginner

So after cutting throughout the bulk (huehue) of this year and finally getting to a place where I'm pretty alright with my appearance, I'm about to start a nice clean bulk.

I've been doing a PPL split throughout my cut (though its consistency suffered over the summer) but I know SS is the standard for beginners who want to start gaining muscle.

I personally love the daily workout routine I get with PPL and am mostly concerned with the frequency of SS not feeling like enough. I do intend to do some amount of cardio everyday (brazilian jiu jitsu/moderate jogging) which might make up for any feeling of not working out on a given day, but I'm not sure.

What are your opinions on this for a beginner? What do people on SS like to do on their rest days?

Posted Sep 9, 2015, 3:28 PM UTC · edited

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FirstSonOfGwyn•

You ran PPL for a year? Where are you lifts, check a strength standards table, if you are much past the novice range its likely you'll not gain much from SS/SL. I would look into intermediate range programs at that point.

PPL is fine for building muscle though? Its just a general routine layout, you can do whatever you want with PPL.

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GoingBeyondOP•

145x5 for bench

140x5 for squats

95x5 for Military Press

Unknown deadlifts max

I was never focused on maxing out and building muscle, plus I had a homegym with no spotter/person-to-hear-me-scream so I had to be a bit careful.

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FirstSonOfGwyn•

Yea unless you are an extremely light weight lifter I bet you can still progress on SS/SL a bit. Give it a shot if you'd like. Or set up a similar progression scheme (add 5lb to your compound each session) on your PPL routine if you really like hitting the gym 6 times a week.

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GoingBeyondOP•

That sounds like really great advice, I think I might do that. Do you think either would be generally more effective than the other in this case or would they each work pretty well?

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FirstSonOfGwyn•

I mean SS/SL would be more time efficient. But if you get enjoyment from going 6 days a week, you should do that. Do what you enjoy and it will be easier to establish good habits.

You will get to a point where making progress requires you to be very uncomfortable, you need strong habit and discipline to not quit when that happens.

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linuxrulesusa•

For frame of reference, I went from 45lbs (bar only) for Military Press to 95lbs in about 14 weeks. So, I think you'll quite probably see good progression with SS (or SL if you choose to go that route). If it feels like not enough work try ICF (SL + accessories). And just because you're not feeling sore the next day doesn't mean nothing's happening - I went from 95lb to 250lb deadlift in those same 16 weeks, and rarely felt sore except for starting back after a two week break toward the end.

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GoingBeyondOP•

Wow that's really impressive! What was your diet like?

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linuxrulesusa•

For most of that time I was trying to cut/maintain around 1600 calories. My weight stayed the same around 180 so maybe a slight recomp but mostly maintaining I think.

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pcdude99•

SS locks you into a progression scheme, which can be beneficial to those who cannot progress on their own.

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GoingBeyondOP•

So it really comes down to how I end up designing my own progression with the other routine? That sounds reasonable.

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