Tornado Bag
imgur.com/a/wBuvUPosted Sep 10, 2015, 6:33 AM UTC
Posted Sep 10, 2015, 6:33 AM UTC
Looks great!
Only thing: move your medical gloves to a better protected spot or put in zip lock bags.
Where they are now they could be easily damaged and no longer be sterile. Last thing you want is to dole out medical help, but your gloves are covered in dirt or punctured.
It's kind of hard to see but I have additional gloves in the front pocket. One pair just in the pocket and another in a bag.
Look for another comment I made and I'm not very concerned with sterility because no traumatic wound is going to be sterile from the beginning.
The gloves don't have to be sterile but I don't know why you wouldn't take the effort to keep them clean. With the gloves on the exterior like that they could be exposed to any number of contaminants.
I think my one critique of your bag is the amount of stuff attached to the exterior just by being slipped into the webbing. When the bag is being used it just makes it easier for these things to fall out or be damaged. I'd recommend making proper use of the PALS webbing and getting a pouch to house some of these items.
I'll look into an exterior pouch to better house some of the items
Yea, I don't understand not caring about the gloves getting dirty. He keeps mentioning this wound sterility business. I still wouldn't want your nasty gloves on my open flesh.
Honestly the point of gloves like those are to give you a cleaner set of hands than your own.
By having them in the outside it defeats the purpose, and honestly I think you would be better off having a real good set of working gloves to move debris, especially since you said you have another pair of gloves in the inside.
This bag isn't designed for debris removal. The city can do that. It's for making it through the tornado and shortly after helping people with large bleeds.
Yea but if you are planning on giving immediate medical attention you are going to have to move through some debris.
At first I thought the two yellow flare\epipen looking things were bottles of tequila.
I thought "this guy has the right idea".
Also, you might want more water than medical supplies. Most of this medical kit can be improvised. A thick book and earplugs might also be good. Maybe a blanket. Candles are also nice. Just some thoughts. Do with it what you will.
This is mostly stuff that people just keep stashed in their basements rather than in a pack. Cool stuff though!
Water is not such a concern because I work for the Police Department in my city and more then likely if its to the point I'm using this bag I'll only be on scene a half hour before I'm called into work where we have a large amount of water stashed.
I believe at least in my field of work blood loss is the number one killer in trauma cases. These medical supplies are intended for those people. Where they have a severe bleed and these couple small items can save a life.
What are the ear plugs intended for with this application. The bag is designed around the idea were in shelter a half hour. It either passes and we go back to bed or we no longer have a house and I have to act in my neighborhood. I have 4 emergency blankets in the bag so I think that covers the warmth issue OK. I also have an edc flashlight and additional flashlights through the house. All are regularly used with more batteries of all sizes.
I have no basement or shelter in place. We will use the tub when it comes to that and that is nearly because of cost. I forgot to put the large compartment is going to have a change of clothes for my wife and I.
I didn't try and counter every thing you said I just wanted to better explain the why and thank you for the input.
Cool. Be sure you understand your legal standing if you provide medical aid as a police officer. You may not be protected by Good Samaritan Laws (depends on what state you're in).
I'm protected and supplies with medical supplies from my department but thank you for the suggestion.
What were the ear plugs for?
Oh! Yes. Ha ha. The earplugs are for sleeping. If people are relocated to temporary shelter it can hard to sleep.
I like the size of your medical supplies. Not too much (assuming you know how to use them, which I bet you do) and not too little. After a tornado it can be several hours (at least) before emergency crews are able to arrive.
The only things that I would add would be a pair of wire cutters a face mask/respirator, and a helmet (bicycle works). I was involved in a tornado and helping people after. The hardest thing to deal with was the wiring holding everything together. Wood is easy to break or cut, but that large gauge wiring is near impossible to break without a tool. There was also a lot of airborne debris, most if was not something I wanted to be breathing. I wore a cheap fiberglass respirator the following days and that made a huge difference. I now have 2 in my bag.
If you will look at my other replies you will see that I do in fact know how to use what I have.
I think wore cutters are a good suggestion along with the masks as well I'll be adding both of them to the bag. Thanks.
No problem.
I like pointing out knowing how to use your equipment because I often see people with full trauma kits and equipment that they have no idea how to use. I suppose learning how to use it in the field can be better than not having it at all but it would be better to know how to use it.
no no no. you need about 6 more guns and at least 4 more knives, plus a hatchet and a machete. God don't you people learn anything from th real preppers on this sub?
I'll have a pistol on me for sure but that's because I'm a police officer for my city and my neighbors know that.
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My first question is: what bag is this?
Then I have some tips for you:
Flares, great idea. two of them? even better idea.
Water bottle, how many OZ does that hold? You need about a half gallon every day to be healthy, and more if you are sweating.
Putting the gloves in a plastic bag (ziploc sandwich bag is fine) and squeezing the air out of it will help your gloves last much longer.
Glowsticks, great idea, two? Better idea. maybe switch to green, white, or yellow for better visibility at a distance. unless they serve a different purpose?(for both instances of two being a better idea, its so there is atleast another chance should one fail to work. it's very disheartening when that happens. I had an entire box of bad ones once.)
The bag is a $20 field line backpack from Walmart. It's a knock off of the 5.11 rush 12 hour bag and its been great so far.
I think the bottle holds over 32oz. I'm not going to carry more as I live in the middle of a 100,000 population city and work with emergency services as a policeman so I'll get water from them.
And blue sticks is just what I have. But the other colors are a better idea for visibility purposes.
My concern with the bag is durability. At $20, it probably isn't made of the strongest material, so be cautious. You will likely get water with your role so that's good, but be mindful to grab a bottle early and save your bags water for if they run out
I've had it now for 4 years and its only beginning to show signs of wear on a inside pocket and that bag has been thrown around a lot. I've been very happy with it.
Living in Kansas I have something similar
What kind of bag is that?
thanks, not sure how I missed it while reading through the comments.
Can you link to the radio? I've been looking to get one with the features you describe.
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thanks!
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Is your radio waterproof? If not bag it.
I don't believe it is.
I think this is really smart. I don't have much in the way of "BugOut" supplies but I have a lot of gear that is interchangeable and can be swapped out of my "E-Bag". I'm in central illinois and don't deal TOO much with tornadoes. My bags are more focused around being stranded on the road during a snow storm or something like that. ...Maybe one day i'll actually take pics of my gear and post it.
Anyway, my point is, I really like these specific, situational bags. I think they're important and very practical and I applaud this bag. Do you carry additional tools like a smallish wrecking/pry bar? Or cut-all snips (idk what they're actually called - they can cut a penny in half)?
Someone else mentioned wire cutters and I'll add them but right now I don't have any additional tools. I'm of the impression that if it can be moved with a hand tools it can be moved by my hands. I'm not looking to gather debris after I'm looking to survive and help others medically if possible.
That's fair. I was more thinking of prying a jammed door frame or something like that. Hands are incredible tools but they're also kinda delicate and if I can add a small tool to save my hands/body the abuse, I do. Just my $.02
N95 mask and clear eye protection.
Looks great, the only advice I thought of would be to get an extra social security card and birth certificate. It'll be a lot easier to get spares now (while you still have your originals) than after a ton of people's houses are destroyed and a lot of people are trying to get them.
Not a bad idea.
Man - with all of these storm cells rolling through, this is good. Just drove through middle America and saw some past damages. Pretty rough
Just so you know, you are shadowbanned.
Living in tornado alley has given me the idea to come up with a bag to help me through one if it ever happens. Having been trained on CPR and significant bleed's and how to stop them I have also included a small medical portion into my bag for after the tornado has struck.
You will see that all of my medical supplies are pre-opened or out of the package completely. In my training I have learned that no wound is sterile and that the consistency of blood is closer to oil then water. With that packaging can become so slick that you can't get inside to what you need. I'm missing a tourniquet but have plans to purchase one in the future.
*The rest of the large compartment is for extra changes of clothes. This bag is designed for in shelter and if we lose our house a couple things to help us be found or to help others out the minutes after things have cleared up.
This guy has the right idea. So many people focus on feeding themselves for the next 12 months. Not going to do any good if you get hit by a tornado.
Thank you. I do have a couple small items like razor and tooth brush that will make use feel like humans the short time after but its mostly designed around the idea that it gets us through then to helping other trapped or injured.
You might want to add a pry tool. May have just missed it in there, though.
Nope didn't miss it. Didnt think about it.
I don't know if this has been mentioned. And I don't live in a tornado area... but.
Dust goggles? I'd have em.
Not a bad idea thanks.