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erck

The face you make when you try to collar tie and realize he's a wrestler.

The face you make when you try to collar tie and realize he's a wrestler.

Posted Oct 3, 2015, 6:16 AM UTC

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FistOfPopeyeAtos Canberra•

I remember attending a seminar by Elvis Sinosic during which he told a story about his UFC title fight with Tito Ortiz.

"Having watched a lot of tape, we devised a gameplan that focused on my using the clinch to take advantage of my superior muay thai. However, when I clinched with Tito I was immediately like "holy fuck this guy is strong", and that gameplan went out the window."

Great guy.

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bostongrapplerHeel Hooks•

It's how I decide what to do. If I touch them and they act like they don't know what's happening, I take the guy down. They know what's up I pull guard. I never fight it out either way.

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midastouch42•

Then how do you get better at standup.

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bostongrapplerHeel Hooks•

By practicing wrestling. Little annoys me more than seeing two jiujitsu players awkwardly pummeling for four minutes of a five minute match.

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midastouch42•

Isn't that how you practice though. I'd rather them do that than midget wrestle on their knees for 2 minutes.

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bostongrapplerHeel Hooks•

No. You practice during time set aside for wrestling, not during a match.

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LockDownHalfGuard•

Former Div 1 wrestler here turn BJJ nut. You will figure out they are a wrestler when you go for that collar tie, and they stay non-reactive and go for elbow control of the same arm. When that happens, expect a sudden level change and to land on your butt.

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bjjcripple•

Oh man effing LOL! I totally can relate to this when grappling with wrestlers! They're just so strong I can't believe it.

Basically when I know a guy is a wrestler I won't roll with him. I'm not trying to get elbowed when some guy is flying around the mat not even using ju jitz. That much pressure is a recipe for me tapping and finding a new partner, I mean really guys it's the gentle art not the FUCKING ROIDED WRESTER art! My maestre taught me if you lose to athleticism then you didn't really lose... You won because you have the better jiu jitsu. Oss guys.

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BallPtPenTheif•

i downvoted this at first but then changed my mind and upvoted it because it was fucking hilarious

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r/bjj ain't got no time got funny or sarcasm. I've made more mistakes using humor here than giving limbs to purple belts.

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cms9690Ronin•

WRESTLERS ARE SO STRONG, THEY DONT EVEN KNOW HOW TO GRAPPLE. THEY JUST USE STRENGTH THE WHOLE TIME

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MeatBlanketI'm a person now.•

lmao

In reality, you're not fucked by the strength OR the technique, you're fucked because their scrambling is so amazing.

-Ridiculously strong mediocre wrestler

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cms9690Ronin•

Sweet silent brag.

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MeatBlanketI'm a person now.•

I am literally the strongest and best looking man on earth. And my penis is 13 inches. And I did hand stuff with your mom.

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katch_22•

This. So this. Osssss

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bigbrun12•

Hey can someone ELI5 this for me?

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PawnStarRick•

BJJ guy tried to bullshit a bullshitter.

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adamisdabest•

In BJJ the collar tie(hand(s) around an opponents neck or crown of the head) is normally used to control an opponents posture or to shuck his head down to gain superior position or to attack a choke. The joke here comes from the fact that wrestlers are ridiculously strong guys who always know how to take advantage of a guy trying to use a collar tie on them. Basically if a non wrestler ever tries a collar tie on someone with wrestling experience they fucked.

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Part-time-koala•

Most wrestling matches start with the two opponents going to this position. It's their way of making grips.

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Tigernamus•

Well, the joke works on two levels:

1)In BJJ, a collar tie* is when you grab your opponent by the collar of their gi and use it for control or setting up a submission etc but in the photo, the Villain isn't wearing a gi so there's no where to grab so our Hero is left with no choice but to pull guard.

  1. The title is implying that the wrestler is much stronger than the BJJ practitioner so they're unable to get control regardless so once again, their best option is to pull guard.

Edit: * To appease those with a wrestling background, a Collar Tie is indeed when you grab someone behind the neck but I have also heard it used to refer to grabbing the collar of a gi when used to control and to set up for submissions. In terms of why it makes the joke funny, I took it to mean the person tried to grab a collar, realised there wasn't anything to grab on to and decided to pull guard.

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pryoslice•

I think a "collar tie" is not the same as going for the gi collar. A collar tie is when you control the opponent by wrapping your hand around their collar, which is what is pictured.

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Mriswith88Checkmat TX / Guy Mezger•

Your first point is actually incorrect because in wrestling, a grip behind the neck like that is called a collar tie.

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cms9690Ronin•

1)In BJJ, a collar tie* is when you grab your opponent by the collar of their gi and use it for control or setting up a submission etc but in the photo, the Villain isn't wearing a gi so there's no where to grab so our Hero is left with no choice but to pull guard.

I think you're mistaken. I don't know any bjj guys that call a lapel collar grip a 'collar tie'. I see the term used the same as a wrestling collar tie.

  1. The title is implying that the wrestler is much stronger than the BJJ practitioner so they're unable to get control regardless so once again, their best option is to pull guard.

It's not implying that the wrestler is stronger, just a better standup no-gi grappler.

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IEngineerShtuff•

I have never heard anyone use collar tie to mean a gi grip, ever.

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BlueGlassMan•

You can tell the person with his back to us wrestled because even in the collar tie he's not ear to ear. He's been conditioned to get that head position. Maybe his coach used the age old (and politically incorrect) adage: "Ear to ear is..."

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MeatBlanketI'm a person now.•

FOR QUEERS.

Also when learning hip tosses it's butthole to the peepee

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erckOP•

Yes I did wrestle a bit :)

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plexxonic•

This one is awesome!

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