[Respect] Ghost Riders Mega Thread (Marvel)
##Respect the Spirits of Vengeance
Ghost Riders were spirit entities created by Heaven to scour the earth and clean the impurities. The hosts act as a limiter on what the spirit itself can do and the difference between the power of the host and spirit are drastic.
Only God can actually kill the ghost rider spirit, and Mephisto says he is unable to kill them. Many things can harm them though such as: tech, hellfire, Angels or fallen angels, and sufficiently powerful magic.
##Ghost Riders
There are many Spirits of Vengeance but these are the main ones
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Johnny Blaze - Respect Thread
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Johnny is one of the few Ghost Riders to use hellfire nova's
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Danny Ketch - Respect Thread
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Danny uses his chains a lot more than most even firing off links like shurikens
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Alejandra - Respect Thread
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Alejandra has the most exotic powers like controlling lightning
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Robbie Reyes - Respect Thread
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Robbie uses a car which his spirit controls for him and he can move through it
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He prefers to use his chains a lot in combat as opposed to hellfire that other riders use
##General Ghost Rider Powers
Once a person gains a spirit of vengeance there are certain powers that come with it.
Super Strength:
- Most Ghost Rider's gain a boost in strength between 5-20 tons.
- A ghost rider flips a car one handed
- A ghost rider throws a crane into the air
Durability
- The skeletons of Ghost Riders are very tough and can take a large amount of punishment
- Hitting the body is described as like "kicking a block of cement"
- Hulk leaped onto a rider and crushed it knocking out the host. Note that knocking out the host, usually just gives the spirit full control
Regeneration:
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Damaging or destroying the body of the Ghost Rider with non-supernatural or magical items is usually healed quickly. Damage from supernatural items is still healed but often takes longer
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A Ghost Rider's whole body was destroyed and he came back moments later
Upgraded Transport:
- Whatever they ride becomes upgraded, from living things. to a bullet train
- The ride becomes faster
- The rides can also defy physics in a few ways
- The rides can often act on their own even without the rider's command. The spirit seems to act through them.
Hellfire Abilities:
- Hellfire is a cold flame that attacks the souls of people it hits. It is especially destructive against magic and spiritual beings
- Ghost Riders can infuse other objects with Hellfire.
- Ghost Riders can fire projectile Hellfire blasts.
- Hellfire weakens magical enchantments
##PENANCE STARE:
Requirements:
- The target must have a soul for it to work
- The target must be able to see
- A visor doesn't protect your eyes if it's see through
- Ghost Rider must be able to lock onto a pair of eyes, so in the case of someone with multiple eyes, also from multiple demons in this case, he couldn't pick one set of eyes to use the stare on.
How it works
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The penance stare replays all of your transgressions over and over and makes you feel the pain of what you've done. Even though this person enjoyed what he did once the penance stare hit him he seemed to change his mind along with the suffering. 1, 2, 3
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The penance stare searches deep into you to find your soul and finds all the deeds, including corrupting children. Then he feels the pain, fear, anguish, disappointment, and their horror.
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It doesn't just count physical pain, but emotional anguish as well
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Using the penance stare on a spirit and it is reduced to ash
Times the Penance Stare has Failed
This is a list of almost every time the penance stare has failed, or times that people believe it failed along with explanations. For the most part these are outliers or unknowns but I am providing them to you for your consideration.
- Ghost Rider used the penance stare on Deadpool and it didn't harm Deadpool. However Johnny explains the Ghost Rider was just trying to show Deadpool something.
- Blackheart is a demon empowered and comprised of the energy he draws from evil. When the penance stare was used on him he was strengthened by it because he says it makes you relive all the misdeeds at once and that's what he draws his strength from However, Hellfire has proven quite effective on Blackheart in other situations 1, 2
- The first time GR uses it on Venom it fails because it interacts with the symbiote in an "unknown way". The second time seems to overwhelm the Ghost Rider.. The way it interacts with the symbiotes is mysterious and confusing, it could be a special property of the symbiotes, or a function of trying to use the stare on a dual personality (although that is somewhat countered below).
- Preacher says it doesn't work because he is not bothered by anything he has done., but it is possible because he only killed sinners in his "holy" mission it didn't bother him. This is inconsistent in several ways that are shown below.
- Punisher says it doesn't work because he regrets nothing. The best explanation is that because Punisher doesn't regret his kills AND hasn't hurt any innocents then he doesn't get hurt.
- A lot of people use this to say that if the person has more than two eyes it doesn't work, but Ghost Rider just doesn't get a chance because Zodiac escapes before he starts the attack.
- A person is unaffected by the penance stare, he says he likes killing people and he also says he hasn't felt anything the Ghost Rider has done to him. This character only appears in this issue so it's hard to say but he was specifically picked to fight the Ghost Rider and it could be because he has some immunity. The character also comes back to life after being killed. This character is a mystery, he could have avoided penance stare because he likes killing people, but it's not really stated to be the reason and it could be he has some other abilities we just don't know.
- Ghost Rider attempted to use the penance stare on a demon that was part of a specific group called the Lilin and it backlashes making Ghost Rider feel the pain of all the innocents that were harmed
Misconceptions and Special Circumstances
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No Regret: A lot of people assume how you feel about your transgressions affects the penance stare, but the vast majority of evidence points otherwise. This comes up with bad guys who like what they do, believe they're doing the right thing, that they're justified, don't feel anything, etc.
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Characters who don't regret their actions because they enjoy what they do
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Characters who don't regret their actions because they believe in their cause
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Characters who don't regret their actions because they think they are doing the right thing 1, 2
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Finally where Ghost Rider visits a prison of people with no regret, pity, or conscience, visits prisoners with no remorse, no pity, loving every minute of it, and burns them all with penance flame
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What counts as a sin: The Spirits of Vengeance have a very strict and extensive net for what constitutes sin. Almost anyone should have some sin for the penance stare to find, it's just a matter of how much and how much pain it will cause.
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All life is a sin through the eyes of the spirit of vengeance.
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Even thinking about slapping his wife got the spirit's attention.
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Holds the creator of an independent machine responsible for its actions
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There was a group that had evolved into a state where all they did was feed, and that included eating people. It was considered natural to them, part of their function, but Ghost Rider says murder is never natural and the penance stare burns them.
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Considers chasing a speeding car into an area crowded with innocents to be bad. So even in trying to do the right thing, chasing a bad guy, exposing innocents to danger in that way is still bad.
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Considers "reckless gunplay" that endangers innocents to be a sin and he says they should ask questions first and shoot later
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Insanity: Insanity does not protect you from the penance stare, but it sometimes can delude the effect.
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This character is insane, believes that everything is meaningless, and cannot feel emotional or physical pain and the penance stare causes him great pain
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A crazy homeless person getting revenge, and the penance stare burns him
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Multiple Personality:
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This character is Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde basically, but despite having two forms the penance stare works on him.
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Multiple Forms
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Drugs
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Amnesia
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Working on Ghost rider and burns him for an act he couldn't even remember.
Posted Oct 10, 2015, 9:02 PM UTC · edited