watch that last goal by Liverpool, Arteta was on joe Allen, then faded off him. He had his time and was good, not anymore. Also look at the last game against west brom. It's too bad the new signing wasn't in for this game, he may have been subbed on instead if he were on the bench. https://streamable.com/pl3j
Posted Jan 13, 2016, 10:28 PM UTC
With the defensive structure we used Bellerin was too wide in that situation. Bellerin should've been on him, not Arteta.
Remember, we use zone defense, not man marking.
Exactly. Here is a shitty photoshop of the space that would have been for the two guys in the center, if Arteta had not drifted inside. A hard pass on the ground, and they would have had acres of space at the edge of the box.
nice skills
Thanks. I am a bit of a paint-master, if I do say so myself.
Good thing we have 2 perfectly capable centre backs to mark them, so?
Yeah, Arteta gets blamed for anything these days.
I see what you're saying and it's a good point. As that pass is made in the air though, that threat is now gone. I think he should have kept his head on a swivel and notice the new threat-which was Allen's run coming in from midfield. And Allens shot was taken in bellerins zone, but the run came in from basically central midfield, not out wide, Arteta could have helped to cover.
He was at fault right before Koscielny conceded that foul on Clyne; Arteta should have covered him quicker. We all know the guy is finished. That is why Elneny is coming.
Maybe you'd like to join in with these cunts... I mean 'fans'...
And we brought Elneny in for what reason?
Playing zonal defense, it's not his fault. Bellerin should've closed down on Allen to get him to turn the other way. But it's also annoying that Arteta chose to stick by the plan and didn't resort to man-marking him instead.
it was bellerins fault
Arteta reminds me of Pascal Cygan.
You remind me of a cunt.
Bellerin looked tired today.
Somebody find a match from this season that Hector played well defensively. I can't remember one.
Also, with Benteke in I would've brought Gabriel/Chambers on instead of Mikel.
clearly his legs are gone, his reactions have slowed down considerably. And those hell bent on on not "scapegotting" are just pretending to be nice. it is what it is.
Agreed. I don't want him off the team. He is the captain, helps the young players, is a leader, and will possibly retire straight into a coaching role. But in these sorts of games he should not be playing. I don't blame him for the loss. But Chambers would have been a better option, even putting in Gabriel as a 3rd CB would have been better defensively. We should have either kept up the offensive pressure (not taken off Ozil), or brought in someone who is better suited to do this sort of job. Arteta doesn't actively improve our defense, especially when we are barley hanging on to a one goal lead and under pressure.
imo captain should always lead by example, off field he is exemplary seemingly but on field he is not captain material play wise or personality wise. I think wenger just wants him to contribute and play as a reward for his loyalty earlier because now he cant start especially after elnenny comes. But a more shrewd and cunning manager would never have fielded Arteta especially at 3-2 with chambers and gabriel on bench
I agree with you. He is obviously an important locker room presence, but we should reward him by letting him start in the capital one cup or something. He is important to Arsenal and I hope he stays in a non player role next year.
I feel we lack a true on field captain, isn't Mertesacker Vice-captain? Or am I making that up lol?
Gibbs for Campbell was the main mistake.
The substitutions Wenger did had an impact and led to a 3-3 scoreline. Shame on him.
Yeah. The double sub did not work. Two cold players coming into a frenetic fast paced game at the same time. Ox was anonymous. Gibbs okay. But we really missed Campbell. Don't like Theo on the wing. When Alexis gets back he should revert to striker, rotating with Giroud. Too much of a liability on defense, though he is trying harder.
It was a good goal by Liverpool, and if it was someones fault it was Bellerin's. The subs worked fine, we had decent control on the game and Liverpool weren't able to create much.
We got unlucky, shit happens.
Give him the Old Yeller treatment then a viking funeral.
Our midfield was useless. We are getting schooled by Liverpool of all teams. If we don't win the league, it is because Wenger decided to stick with Arteta and Flamini as backup who are simply not good enough. Without Cazorla, we are back to 14/15 first half with our CMs running around like harried chickens.
Arteta can fuck off to Real Sociedad or whichever Basque team wants him. He is useless at least Flamini has some desire to play. This cunt is here to retire.
Cry me a river. I am sure everyone is listening to your worthless opinion.
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Your attempt at coining a clever nickname is pathetic mate and just diminishes any point your comment is trying to make.
Concentrate on the validity of the point. Ox has lost us points.
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Pretty sure he said it was an attempt at being clever, not being clever.
What? of all the things that we did poorly that game, its the DM added in for extra reinforcements in the last minutes of the game that you look upon as the glaring mistake of the match? Jesus. I get that people around here like to hate Arteta for no reason but this is probably the worst example I've seen yet.
Theo was utter dogshit all game, make a post about him if youre looking for someone.
Chambers should have been brought on though, defensively he's better and since they were putting balls into our box he would have been of more use
He is a full 4 inches taller, can't argue that he wouldn't have been as useful in the box haha
he would, it makes a difference as he's got a much bigger physic presence than Arteta
Wait that's exactly what I meant. I was agreeing with you. Pronouns are hard
Scapegoating
Not saying it's the games single glaring mistake, a mistake among others, but Wenger put him on to help defensively, clearly he didn't. I was glad when we signed Arteta when a lot were not satisfied with his signing, that he wasn't a 'big' enough of a signing, but at this point, I don't think he has top quality anymore. Also to say that people hate Arteta for no reason-really? You don't see any reasons? Maybe hate is too strong a word, but no reason for criticism?
yes, your post is a precise example of people thinking Arteta is shit for no reason. To the extent that you made an entire post about him and why you thought he cost us the last goal. All of which is complete and utter tosh.
You make it sound like I went so far out of my way to make a post, it's really not that big of a thing. Again, no reason? No reason to think Arteta has not played well this year? At all? -Just think he could have done better in helping to defend that Allen goal.
That goal was the fault of Bellerin and Cech.
Terrible post. You just needed an excuse to shit on Arteta and you jumped at the first opportunity. Fans like you are a disgrace.
Arteta could have done better on that play, I'd be happy to discuss that further if you wanted. But in the meantime, I'd like to apologize to everyone for being so out of line and disgraceful.