Cuba Libre Rules Question about Limited Operations

Question

In the playbook, one of the first moves the Government makes is a Limited Operation Rally (page 5). The player replaces two cubes and puts out a base in Las Villas.

Here is the rally rules for the Government:

3.2.1 Train. Training Operations augment Government forces and possibly build Support (1.6). Select any Provinces or Cities and pay 2, 3, or 4 Resources per selected space according to the US Alliance track (6.3.1).

PROCEDURE: First, in each selected Province with a Government Base AND in each selected City, place up to 4 cubes (any combination of Available Troops and Police). Then, in up to 1 selected space, either:

  • Replace any 2 cubes with 1 Government Base (within stacking,1.4.2), OR

  • Conduct Civic Action (6.3.2) to build Support. As during the Support Phase, the Government must have Troops, Police, and Control (1.7) in the space and must pay added Resources per >6.3.2 (even if Training was free).

I understand that Limited Ops is basically an Operation in one space. My questions is why can't the player put 4 cubes in one space and in that same space, place a base?

I have read the playbook and the rules and it doesn't really specify why the Government can't do both parts of the rally.

I would assume that by acting twice on one space is really acting on two spaces?

Posted Jul 18, 2016, 12:47 PM UTC

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Sgt_ZigZag•

You can do both, that is place cubes AND replace for a base, but go back and read the criteria for placing cubes, it must be in a city or in a province with a govt base. In this case due to the limited operation the government must only select a single space and chose Las villas. This is a province without a base so placing cubes is not possible thus only the replace sub action could be executed. Were the government to select a city for example as the single space, both sub actions, placing cubes and replacing for a base are possible.

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QuazLOPGMT•

Thanks. I totally missed that. I really need to slow down and read the details better.

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emerald_bat•

Tangent on Government Ops: Can you sweep into a space where there are already troops without moving troops in? I know it counts all the troops already there, but not sure if it was required to move some in to begin with.

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ezrawork•

You can totally sweep in place

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BigRedBike•

I do not believe that you must physically move troops from another space to sweep.

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ScruffyMagicCOIN•

I believe the rules specify somewhere that you can "sweep in place", but that might be from ADP. I know the bots are certainly programmed to.

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emerald_bat•

Thank you. I think I played this rule in FiTL wrong, although in that game I usually do want to get those guys moving up north pretty fast.

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Sgt_ZigZag•

Here's an excellent rules reference. It's a flow chart which basically has the rules built in. It clarifies very clearly both the questions asked in this thread: the government base question by OP and the sweep in place question asked by another user.

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QuazLOPGMT•

Thanks so much. Printed it today.

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