The First Time, Again

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Now,
As I slowly approach the emerald sea,
I know much about this scene that confronts me –
Waves crashing with their foaming rhythm,
Lands lying beyond each watery schism,
Creatures I've seen in films and pictures,
Elements I've studied in diagrammed mixtures;
The forces that form the bounded ocean –
I can rattle them off with a cursory mention,
And though I yet marvel at the scope of it all,
My sense of wonder often slows to a crawl.

Oh, to see the ocean anew once more,
And no longer know what lies past the shore,
To picture the beyond with no more knowledge
Than that which fills a mind's bare cottage
(Which now is a mansion brimful with data,
Heaped high everywhere like ponderous strata),
To ask the one whose hand I am holding
What exactly it is that I am beholding,
And hearing the answer, to not understand
As I run chubby fingers across the damp sand.

First and Second

Edit 1: Changed "I know precisely what's confronting me" to "I know much about this scene that confronts me", in response to the comment from rolls_for_initiative.

Posted Jul 18, 2016, 10:34 PM UTC · edited

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Thank you for sharing this poem. I have some elements I'd like to focus on:

Perhaps I'm a product of the institution, but whenever I come across a poem in meter I always add an extra level of scrutiny. Part of it is stylistic--this form fell out of favor in academia, although it's always flourished at smaller levels. However, another layer of criticism I apply to rhyme and meter is that locking written expression into an algorithm immediately limits that expression. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but it polarizes the risk and reward; if you can pull it off, there's double the payout. However, what happens most times is that the singsong style of the verse limits it's potential--and I think that's happening here a bit. Assigning a pattern can make your words seem forced--which makes them seem insincere. For example:

As I slowly approach the emerald sea,
(--/--/-/--/)
I know precisely what's confronting me
(-/-/---/-/)
(There should be a stress on the first syllable of "confronting, but doing so is awkward).

Generally speaking, long adverbs in a metric poem can seem insincere--like you're just buying time to arrive at the verb.

Sometimes, though, you get it just right, and I feel transported for a moment to something from Frost or Poe. For example:

And no longer know what lies past the shore

Lovely. Hit just the right chord on that line.

In summary, I think you've written a very heartfelt poem that lives up to the lofty price of rhyme and meter in several areas. I would recommend giving this one some time to marinate; afterward, come back and wrestle for some tighter fits.

Thanks!

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neutral_enemyOP•

I definitely feel like I force my rhymes sometimes when trying to adhere to a fixed pattern, but I had not considered that this can taint my tone with insincerity (or at least the perception thereof). Many thanks for this insight! You mentioned that the word "precisely" in line 2 is used like I'm "buying time to arrive at the verb", and upon reflection, I agree. I've edited it now, and would be interested to know if you think it's an improvement.

You're also right about the improper iamb there, though I wasn't really trying to get those perfect throughout the poem (mostly because it's, well, difficult).

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Brett420•

This is a very "pretty" poem, and that's not a compliment that I give very often. The images, the rhyme, the language, the literal structural uniformity of the line lengths is all pleasant on the mind and eye.

 

In my feedback I always try to comment on the emotional vibe or ambiance that a poem gives, as I feel that is one of the most important aspects to a piece. This one is very relaxing to me.

I thought that your rhyme and meter were well executed here, and along with all the ocean imagery I couldn't help but feel a gentle back and forth, like the tide coming in and out, or swaying in a hammock. This probably feeds into the "pretty" adjective from before, too.

 

I really like your interpretation of the "I wish I didn't know now what I didn't know then" trope. It's something that's been reflected on many times, but you've done it in a way that I feel is refreshing and unique.

 

My only actual criticism would be about the parenthetical lines, 16 & 17. I honestly think you could do without them in this poem at all. The parenthesis themselves are kind of distracting, and they draw a lot of attention to those lines. Unfortunately I also think that the lines are out of place to begin with, and emphasizing them that way is like taking a highlighter to the only blemish on an otherwise lovely poem.

The reason I say they don't fit mostly comes from the word "data." In a poem that is otherwise so full of this nice beach and water imagery I'm struck by the ... technological implications of the word. I know that data doesn't necessarily imply computation, but it just seems so incongruous with the rest of your piece, and like I said the parenthesis really draw attention to it.

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neutral_enemyOP•

Your feedback is much appreciated! I knew I was dealing with a not-so-unique trope while I was writing this, so I'm relieved that someone else finds my interpretation to have its own character. Now, about your criticism - originally, my thought with that parenthetical was to provide a present-day juxtaposition with the childlike "bare cottage", since I thought the metaphor might be incomplete without those two parts. However, I agree with both you and Sora1499 that the couplet is incongruous within the context and mood of the poem. At present I'm not exactly sure what to do about it. I'm leaning towards keeping the idea itself so the metaphor retains its yin and yang, but perhaps changing the diction to avoid the incongruity. As rolls_for_initiative suggested, I may have to let this one "marinate". Thanks again for your take!

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Sora1499•

I definitely agree with Brett. While "ponderous strata" is pretty delicious phrasing, the mention of data in a heavily naturalistic and serene poem is sort of awkward and jolty.

The themes in this piece are great and I think the rhyme works pretty well. Like rolls_for_initiative said, the meter could use a bit of tightening up but it is certainly not bad as-is. You've created a really special and beautiful poem. The bittersweet nostalgia is almost painful. Well done.

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King_D_Flame•

very well done, reading this felt mysteriously good.

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