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RegularMinecraftFan

Why does Japan like to puppet nations across the world?

Question

In several games I defeat a country with me having a slight majority of the war score and I first take the states that don't turn the map into gore and the high-populated ones. After that, states that have resources. Next, states that look good and make my name bigger.

But before I can get to step two freaking Japan (if they're in the war) puppets the gosh dang country.

Example One: Playing as Fascist Denmark, have the UK do their stupid intervention focus, start WWII two years early. No biggie, I have big brother Germany to help me. I take Sweden and her neighbors, OPE there goes Japan going for northern aggression and getting the USSR and Tannu Tuva in the war. I see Hungary, they have a good 60 divisions we can use for the war effort, but they have no route to go through. It's okay, we can Dow on Austria. I do that, let Germany take a state, hopefully Hungary will get one too.

Nope. Japan puppets AUSTRIA. AUSTRIA!

Example Two: I'm El Salvador, tale neighbors, etc etc. big brother Germany wants me in their faction. Sure, why not? My seven divisions will definitely be of use in their war against the Belgians. I go south, Japan joins the Axis, therefore getting in my war against the Panamians. It's okay, they can't do anything OH MY GOD WHY DID THEY PUPPET A COUNTRY WITH NO STRATEGIC VALUE TO THEM. How do they even have more war score than me? Oh, yeah, because their war against China and my war against Panama and Germany's war against the Belgians are totally the same. If Germany captures freaking Savo in Finland, that has to mean they can influence a country literally thousands of miles away...

Example Three: Playing Iran, go commie for a different route, I have Middle East under my control. I influence country with most divicsions, that's Japan. Months later they're in Comintern. Great. I decide to go to war against the Bulgarians. oh, USSR wants to help? Sure thing Bug Brother Stalin. Next day I'm spammed with messages about how Paraguay is going to help me. Wars merge, shoot, I'm part of the Japanese-Chinese-German-Whatever War now. Great. And guess what? Japan's contributions in Korea allow him to puppet Bulgaria. K'know what, I have the better peace conference mod. It's real nice. BUT NOT AGAINST THE JAPANESE!!!

Posted Sep 5, 2016, 12:52 AM UTC

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Murder-Mountain•

Panama does have value to Japan, its next to the Canal and can allow Japan to strike both coasts easily. It acts as a staging area, which Japan wanted in latin america in real life.

Japan needs basing for its navy, why do you think the UK has so many holding across the world? For fun?

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RegularMinecraftFanOP•

Y'know, I get Panama. The Japanese can use its land all it wants to as long as it's used strategically. The UK and others have good ports in Zimbabwe Singapore and stuff. It makes sense for Japan to puppet Panama if they were the ones who fought Panama. Japan did jack squat in my war against the Panamanians.

The UK just wants to make its name bigger, obviously. /s

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themoosh•

Play with the peace conference mod, fixes this problem.

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RegularMinecraftFanOP•

Hey. I have that mod. It works if Japan isn't in the war. Otherwise, it does little to stop the Japanese puppets.

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themoosh•

I see. I also play with a mod that makes Japan create its own faction so that must be what's keeping it from happening in my games.

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Avnas•

because they're cheeky

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PaumCharmosoGeneral of the Army•

I made this mod a while back that makes the AI give all their score to you,so they don't take random territories/puppet random countries.

Just make sure to only enable it before Peace Conferences,since it breaks AI-only wars like the Ethiopian war.

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iPissPurpleGeneral of the Army•

But you cant even give them any land so thats stupid.

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PaumCharmosoGeneral of the Army•

Yes you can,just click on the country's flag and select the provinces you want to give

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iPissPurpleGeneral of the Army•

Whhaaaat? that changes everything.

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