Posted Nov 22, 2016, 1:12 PM UTC
It's all desperation, they know they're completely losing grip on people so they try to make these stupid statements about people. It would be funny if it weren't for the fact that these nutters genuinely believe this and try to drag everybody else into their idiotic cult by screaming that caring about equality means you're a feminist.
They're trying to put us all into a position where agreeing with them is the only option a 'reasonable' person would make but completely forget the fact we all have free will.
It's all desperation, they know they're completely losing grip on people so they try to make these stupid statements about people.
You know, I used to think that as well. But I honestly think most of these "journalists" believe the crap they say.
I wasn't saying they didn't, but they're at least smart enough to know when people simply don't care about what they think which is why they're behaving like they are now.
If I remember correctly, he actually responded with "yes, I could identify as a second wave feminist".
Everybody who wants anything good is a feminist. Everybody who wants something bad is a misogynist.
I want pie. Am I a feminist or a misogynist?
Clearly you're objectifying women by wanting their "pie" you misogynistic shitlord. Check thy privilege!
She wonderfully illustrates how much difference makeup, good lighting and a fresh hairdo make.
Other than that, what use is she exactly?
Don't forget , AND Photoshop.
Are you a man and have you ever watched a musical? Then you are transexual.
I've watched quite a few musicals. And operas. Haven't felt any strange urges yet.
Unfortunately much of it's a bit dated. Stuff such as Gilbert and Sullivan was quite raunchy in it's time. Wagner is just one long orgy of beastiality, incest and huge tits.
I miss those days.
Ah, but the problem is that we believe in equality for women, and feminists do not -- they believe in supremacy for women.
Okay, I know this is off topic as hell, but as a german I can only laugh at the notion that Angela Merkel is a feminist. Angela fucking Merkel is against gay marriage for gods sake... amongst other things. Oh wait, letting 2+ million refugees into the country most likely was worth more browny points, nevermind... -.-
No, I do not believe in equality "for women". I believe in equality for everyone.
One thing I always wondered is: why do these people always look like the exact type to take part in such nonsense?
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That's like saying "So you're actually a Communist." It's absurd for a tiny, tiny (yet admittedly influential) ideological minority to appropriate values that nearly everyone holds and say "We actually invented this and it's the only thing that you need to believe to be part of our group so you are one of us even if you find us all fucking reprehensible." That isn't how language works! The meanings and implications of words cannot be dictated by tiny clubs of academics and media cunts who disagree with common usage.
Angela Merkel has never been very interested in feminism. I hate her guts, but should be objective there.
So this sub is just dropping all pretence of being about men's rights and is officially becoming about anti-feminism then?
I had so much hope after seeing this post, but then shit like this gets upvoted and I utterly despair again.
Who do you think is preventing men from getting
Equal rights to being a parent - Answer: Feminists
Equal rights to see their children upon divorce - Answer feminists , (See the NOW statement on shared parenting)
Equal rights to money to prevent DV against men, Answer Feminists
Feminists recognise all problems with their "equality" if it turns against them. Here is a recent case of feminist women against rape on men being a crime because there could be false accusations: http://www.jpost.com/Israel/Womens-groups-Cancel-law-charging-women-with-rape
And if that gets posted to the sub nobody would complain. But this thread has nothing to do with male victims of rape, it's just whining about feminism and has nothing to do with men's rights
I think it's fair to say a toxic subset of feminists are doing that--even the majority of them--but it's reasonable to say that ragging on them because they're feminists (instead of focusing on specific issues) isn't helping anyone.
It's fun to blow off steam sometimes though.
The problem with the argument that a toxic subset of feminists is responsible is that the most toxic of them are the ones lobbying to keep the laws cited by \u\x-system the same.
They are the ones teaching gender studies classes that drill patriarchy theory, rape culture theory, and other man=bad rhetoric into the heads of students. They are the ones in positions of government bemoaning, for example, that Women are the primary victims of war".
Furthermore, it's basically enabled by all the ones who will blindly tell you "But not all feminists are like that" as the subset of toxic ones gains more control over the classroom, the government policy, the media.
That said, I very much agree that ragging on them accomplishes nothing, but I think it very much behooves us to demonstrate this pattern to others who may not yet realize that feminism's stated goals and its actual practice are in conflict, to the detriment of not only men, but often of women, too.
Does the OP post talk about feminist views on reproductive rights? Does the OP post talk about feminist views on child custody? Does the OP post talk about feminist views on DV? Then why are you bringing that up? This isn't a post criticizing those views it's a post that's just whining about feminism for the sake of it. This sub is supposed to be r/mensrights not r/antifeminism and posts like these just drive people away and aren't constructive at all
I'm 100% anti-feminist because they're the single biggest obstacle to furthering men's rights (and their ideology is a misandrist, repulsive cult of bullying and victimhood that sets ordinary people against each other.)
I can't talk for anyone else.
Watch the Red Pill and tell me that feminism and men's rights can coexist peacefully.
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Insofar as feminism is against the rights of men, it's pretty much a default position that we are against feminism.
Unfortunately there is a lot of just anti-feminist circle-jerking these days. I actually recently raised this issue in this thread and it looks like a lot of other users support making r/mensrights a men's rights sub instead of just an anti-feminist sub, but unfortunately the mods think posts like this are fine.
Somebody in that thread was asking for a specific example of an anti-feminist post that has nothing to do with men's rights... I think I'll link this one, because it doesn't get more blatant than this
I can believe in equality without being a feminist.
Exactly. Feminism is a far left pseudo Marxist ideology involving concepts such as “the patriarchy”, “rape culture” etc. Acceptance of these ideas is quite separate from the simple belief that men and women should have the same social and legal rights.
Nothing far left about an ideology that constantly attacks the male proletariat while increasing privilege for an already over-privileged sex. You got the "pseudo" right, though.
That stupid argument is like: You like kids? You are a pedophile then.
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