Scorpion Tower 134 + 135 with very manageable deck (Rogue/Mage)
Posted Mar 31, 2017, 12:31 AM UTC
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These post are usually deleted during tower events from what i noticed. Had another one with a knight at floor 160+ and it was removed yesterday (no supreme deck).
Gratz though! i stopped at 120 kills and will climb again if needed.
Edit; not sure if was deleted or OP removed it himself, would seem odd to post it then removed it later though.
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Mods are assholes if they delete this.
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Any idea what the reasoning is? This is actually one of the more helpful posts.
Can we get a mod to comment?
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I'm late, but I'd like to apologize in general and to u/Slicester for this post being removed.
When it comes to videos, especially related to events, they're subject to removal, but it's definitely supposed to be on a case by case basis. Anyone who feels a post was wrongly removed or shouldn't have been removed is welcome to send a message via modmail.
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Thank you so much! ^^
Better late than never! I worked hard on this and am glad that it's back up. It felt unjust that it got deleted. Thanks for clarifying on how to deal with it
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Thank you!!
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would like to know myself if its true, seems unlikely the OP of yesterday's post removed it himself.
My guess is that it will add more competition to the tower.
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That was actually me, not because of competition. Its because the quality was so bad no one would watch it. I was trying to see if there is any way to fix it. Maybe I should put it up again and make it as a challenge for people to watch it haha.
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Yes. By all means let's clutter every decent post into a megathread where nobody can see and comment on it in a meaningful way. /s
Your modding getting a bit out of hand. Please consider letting people have meaningful posts that host a nice place for discussion.
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I'm glad I upvoted this since I was wondering where it went. Seriously though.. Then there's still posts like mine that I took 5 minutes to do, about the tower. OUTSIDE OF THE MEGATHREAD. There's also the "Hall of Shame" one. Hmm. I love the "Failproof to Shinra" one. Was hilarious. But shouldn't it still be subject to deletion? Weird. It feels unfair tbh. This post probably took hours and maybe days of experimentation to pull off. I feel for the OP. He even had Lord C's seal of approval too it seems, unlike the rest of us. feelsbadman
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To be fair, I thought the sentence after "Thank you!"
https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/61fs7t/tier_challenge_scorpion_sting_submissions/dflg1gy/
would get a free pass. But you do you.
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Please post this again after tower ends with your final standing. Its good for morale and your strategy is very good considering that it used very easy to obtained cards!
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Oh my, I had no idea. Thanks for the heads up if does indeed get removed. I'll keep that in mind for the future.
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This is interesting. I'd thought about switching up my L'cie cannon strategy to accommodate regular job switching, but found that I do just a bit too much damage, so killing the boss too early is a very real threat, leaving me in a bad spot for the next one. Also, I haven't rolled well on JCR, so it's iffy, even with ultimate stun.
Couple of questions: what's the purpose of keeping light drive over wind? With Ochu and Storm Dragon prevalent, seems like it's too easy to get killed first round without extra defense. Very glass cannon approach. Second, why Blizzaga? You've seemingly got damage covered with Shiva Sicarius alone, and a strong AoE seems like it'd come in too late to be meaningful against the first round Shinra squad.
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Yeah you're right, it's a VERY glass cannon approach. Even at this floor, I find Ochu still manageable. Driving light and ulting just for orbs helps a lot. Like I said, it's a battle of RNG with this darn thing. As long as Storm Dragon doesn't one shot you, I don't see a purpose of running wind element yet. Since he activates your Clutch abilities and he's prone to being broken in a single turn. But it's completely reasonable to run wind against these guys! If you get a favorable matchup on 1st round on a Storm Dragon stage, you can switch to Mage and setup your buffs(including wind drives!).
There are only two drawback to using wind instead of light, that I can think of. One is the obvious losing of a Drive Heal. Wind doesn't have Drive Heal, so when pitted against non-wind enemies, you have even less survivality! The second is that Mage and Rogue share wind orbs. This means when you switch into a Mage, the wind orbs won't turn to precious water orbs, cluttering up your orbs and being useless. This can result to many kill or die situations. It's up to you if these drawbacks outweigh the resistance or not.
Like I said in my Deck list
5* Shiva AoE (Completely useless, feel free to replace)
It's just there for the levels and passives haha. Btw, what's JCR? I have no clue.
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Ah, missed that about the useless deck slot. Kinda have something similar with Exdeath and Hecatoncheir, in case something goes horribly, terribly wrong.
Also, JCR = job change recast.
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Funny that you clarify that now. My Shiva provides 1 JCR. I suppose I got lucky in that aspect. But you can just replace her with any card that has it. Hopefully you have 1 sitting somewhere, no matter how bad the actual card is! It really is worth it at the higher floors.
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Haha, well then it works out. I ended up trying out your strat with Firaga Impulse in case I needed mage to clear red bar the next round. Wasn't necessary, but the 2-turn cooldown on job swap left me far more comfortable. Got me through floor 125 no problem when I usually struggle with -5 nodes.
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Thank you for sharing this! I don't have rogue, but it's really nice to see someone climbs that far with ability cards that I actually have. That Cindy is really nice indeed. It's almost like SE was giving it for free as an apology for its silly gacha system.
Gosh, it looks like Hellclaw hits really hard in the 130-ish floor and that was just its normal attack. :o
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I saw your post in TheRealC's tier challenge thread, and was able to use a similar deck to get to 99 kills before the clock ran out. I'm content with being in the Top 700 :-)
Thanks for posting your strategy, congrats on reaching the Top 500!
My cards were Cindy/Mateus/Deathgaze/KotR for Rogue, and L'Cie/Haste/FatChocobo/Berserk for Mage. My Ozryel X has Exploit Weakness+57 and Ultimate+1 unlocked.
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Congrats! Glad it could be of help ^^
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Do you have Job Change Recast down on a lot of your cards? Or just a strategic few?
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Only 2 since that's the max. I highly recommend it since changing becomes much more frequent as you climb.
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I have it on a few cards, but unfortunately not the ones I've been shuffling into my tower deck. Regalia already comes with it, and I have it on my 3-star Artemis. I guess getting it on Cindy and Moogle would be a good investment.
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I'm using Rogue too but my cards consist of Cindy, Mateus, Deathgaze, and Glasya Labolas. Weapon used is Rising Sun (with 30% Piercing Break and Ultimate +1^hoping^for^ultcharger ). Here are my strats:
- For sub bosses, spam abilities and break. For first bosses, it's safe to use the ultimate since I can recharge my gauge on the second boss.
- For the squads, spam AoEs! Pray to RNGesus that you retrieve Fire and Earth orbs for each use.
- For the wind dragon, I can either go YOLO or switch to wind element, which means losing my drive heal for light orbs. I sometimes use my ultimate here since I can recharge my gauge (same with Marilith).
- For the scorpion, I apply BDD+CRD, break on the last action (I reduce the red gauge as much as possible), switch to Berserker. Just ensure that you will have enough dark orbs before the switch (i.e. have some light and fire orbs on Rogue before the switch)! Berserker casts Dark PuPu, Faith, Anima Sic. At floor 70+, it takes two casts to kill the scorpion.
Hope I can catch up! I just want ten crystals. Top 1000 is enough for me.
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Nice strategy for what you have! Definitely working with what you've got.
If you ever get stuck with your strategy, I'll let you know that Rogue from this Deck got me to Floor 102(except 95 or 100, Marilith is a problem) all by himself! So put more faith in him, he's a total powerhouse. If things are looking too complicated, take a step back and use this solo approach ^^
However keep in kind the strategy still applies, so relying on ult is crucial. It might be a lot harder with Rising Sun's +1%, but I'm sure you can do it! Good luck for that Top 1000!
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P.s. thanks for your post, makes me want to post mine too (no supreme cards), interesting strategy too.
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Just be sure to message the mods if it's okay so there's no misunderstandings! Don't want your hard work to go to waste ^^
Just curious, what are the jobs and floor? Spare me the deck details so if you do decide to upload it, I won't get spoiled.
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Rogue & berserker (pulled all jobs bc I saved all my summon tickets from f2p jobs). Relies heavily on ult charging, using stun ult from Rogue, breaking at right time & easy to access buffs that extend duration of buffs (especially emergency kicked buffs). So much easier to explain via video. Ill see if I can upload tonight.
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Alternatively u can submit it in the tower challenge thread below. It's a great initiative by TheRealC who shows appreciation to special decks and strategies:)
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I've done similar thing, but with Mage deck for sustain battle set: L'cie, Carbuncle, KoTR and Wedge. Since my target in this tower is only top1000, I'm now on floor 88(or 83/93 I forgot lol), rank 700ish. Good luck with your top500. Cheers.
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It seems the community is in low spirits about this tower. So I just wanted to share this and possibly boost the spirits to those that are still climbing. You don't need anything special. This deck consists of normal jobs, free cards, and cards both available in Ability Shop and have farmable fodders. Hopefully this eases up the tension that "tower is only p2w" mentality. However, I have to admit that the hackers are running more rampant than previous Towers, let's hope they get banned before tower ends.
Now I'm going to thoroughly explain how the deck works. It's just basic game mechanics and such, so veterans can skip through the wall of text.
The Deck
Rogue - Free Cindy, 5* Mateus, 5* Deathgaze, and Free Regalia.
Mage - 4* Shiva Sicarius, 5* Artemis, 5* Shiva AoE (Completely useless, feel free to replace), 3* Moogle
This deck is cheap, easily attainable, and FAST! Each run is 5~ minutes long, even at the top. Yummm.
The General Strategy
First off, this is a super aggressive deck and you want to minimize getting hit. Always start with Rogue. This strategy heavily relies on Rogue ultimate, so play around that aspect. Rogue ult has high break power, gives Haste, and stun+debarrier. The goal is to always have Cindy up (which shouldn't be too hard) and turning the enemy bar to red. Once the bar is red, use your ultimate. Most cases, the ultimate should be able to break the red bar. However at high floors this isn't the case, so set up with Artemis or purposely activate Clutch Boost. When breaking with the ultimate, keep in mind that it's most optimal to break with 7 actions left so that you maximize your turns. Once broken, the bosses can easily die in just 1 turn. Feel free to switch since Mage is much stronger, but do not kill! This is because it's important to build up your ult gauge for the next boss! Leave them at around 1-5%, so you can kill them at will. In the meantime, just auto-attack and drive to build that ult! Remember that Rogue ult stunned them for 1-2 turns, so you're given even more time to build your ult gauge! Around 75% should be enough to move onto the next boss, but I recommend it to be 100% just to be safe. Kill the boss. Now rinse and repeat.
Just some random notes
When switching to Mage, be sure to have at least 2 Heart/Prismatic Orbs to activate Faith. More importantly, right before you switch, be sure to have nothing but Earth/Light orbs when you're a Rogue. This makes sure they all get turn to Water orbs. At higher levels, you're forced to switch much more because you need Boost, so learn to work with that. He's not just a nuker, but also your buffer.
It's good to note that you should only use Regalia when you HAVE to. It's extremely clutch.
unlike when it fliesDon't just spam it mindlessly! It's a really good way to bounce back when RNG is brutal or you made a few mistakes. You can also use it for it's Duration Boost when you're in a good spot already.Other than the bosses shown in video I'll briefly explain the rest.
The hardest hurdle has to be the Storm Dragon. If he uses Faith first turn, it's 100% death. So just hope that he doesn't. Anything else is fine. He simply requires you to play perfectly or force you to use Regalia, which can be devastating for the upcoming boss.
Atomos has got to be the most pushover of the bunch. He works in a very similiar fashion to Hellclaw, but very vulnerable. He's by far the weakest and doesn't threaten you. However this is only true before his 3rd turn. It's not a problem to break him before his 3rd turn. Just like Hellclaw, he only has 1 action so Rogue's stun really makes it a cinch.
2nd round Shinra Troops are a joke with Rogue+Mateus combo. Especially since you get to prepare for it.
Can't say the same for 1st round Shinra Troops though..You should be fine.Ochu can be a pain. This one is actually a true battle against RNG than the actual enemies. Regalia makes this much easier. Deathgaze makes quick work of the little guys. Ochu only has one action so Rogue's ult makes him really easy to manage. Not to mention he literally wastes a whole turn when you kill his babies. So that gives more time to fill your ult gauge.
Bonus: Here's an earlier Tower run at 119, but it's MUCH smoother. It's also an Ochu fight. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvRKIiOyfCA
I even tried to showcase the strengths of both Rogue and Mage equally and used different methods for each floor. It shows the deck can be flexible. Big shoutouts to u/TheRealC and his Tower Challenge for forcing me to use a cheap, effective deck. And more importantly, for making this Tower actually fun! Good luck if you're going to try this! Let me know if you have any questions, I'll try to help the best way I can.
TLDR: Just watch the vid