Regarding Cheaters and Reporting

I've started to keep a more watchful eye as I've done my tower climbing, paying attention to and cataloging. Aside from catching blatantly suspect decks, I've started looking at battle scores too, since those exist independently of any other strategy for high scoring. I don't really know why I didn't think of this sooner, and I hope you all are doing the same. Here's an example of some impossible figures to obtain, using what I am supposing to be the top legitimate spots: http://i.imgur.com/YAqMI4g.png

Lastly, I've been sending my screenshots to the Facebook page. Is this the best channel to go through?

Posted Mar 31, 2017, 12:08 PM UTC

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JojoScraggins•

An important note about battle scores: your battle score is the single highest score you've gotten in the tower. So don't go reporting someone with a high score because they have a turtle deck. It is very easy to get a high score on lower levels and carry that with you for most of the tower.

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TheRealC•

That's why I'm believing the 80 million guy, but the fellow with 6 billion is breaking my willing suspension of disbelief :p

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Hyodra•

I was able to rent a UB and get 25M during the first 10 floor of the tower. Still havent surpassed that but getting close.

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Slicester•

Are you serious!? 25M by the 10th floor!? I got my highest score with 15M at the 140th floor! I can't even imagine getting close to that at this point. To think you can get that before the Coil.. Jesus I wanna try that next time. I usually just auto until I can't. But I think getting an edge in points that easily might help in a super competitive Tower. Thanks for the idea!

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Hyodra•

I specifically had nothing but buffs and rented the only attack card. There was also several light monsters before the boss to really get the most out of UB.

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JojoScraggins•

Gross. I only managed 16m in the low floors this time. Having only 10 floors before coil is really killer for AoE ult high scores.

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Fouace•

Actually I did not think about doing that. Good tips for next time!

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Ely_Rhyme•

Exactly I did my samurai ulti highscore of 29 mil on floor 20 :3...

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SwiftStepStompOP•

I hear what you're saying, but if someone's intent is to climb as high as possible, setting up a high score, to me, seems like a waste of time; floors matter in the ranking, not score. 80 million is therefore kinda suspect, and I rely on surrounding context to make the judgment call. Floors ending in -6 are Deathclaw nodes, so the choice to bring Bahamut over literally anything else leaves me unable to believe.

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Bullfreg•

I got 67 million as my high score with Sage... 80 million isn't all that suspect if you can get full crits on every microchu and ochu using Sage ultimate and then do the same on round 2 and 3

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SwiftStepStompOP•

Yeah, I'll buy it, and ease off of the paladin. He/she did have UB, so he/she probably has access to a Mythic Sage or other explosive ultimate. Does make it harder to feel out what is and isn't legitimate though.

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JojoScraggins•

It's a good strategy since it is easier to get a high score on lower floors. I've been doing this every tower. In previous towers it has given me ~5-50 ranks advantage (that tonberry one where everyone got bunched together at 105).

Just don't be that guy that reports someone because either his score didn't change or his deck doesn't match his score.

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SirPhoenix88•

Wrong. If 20 people are on the same floor, that can be the difference between 499 vs 519.

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xveganrox•

80 million is therefore kinda suspect, and I rely on surrounding context to make the judgment call.

It's totally feasible, though. I don't see a score like that as suspect by itself. Some people like setting up high scores, and 80 million is doable. Scores in the billions are automatically suspect, though, since I don't think anyone in global has broken a billion legitimately yet.

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Hyodra•

You have to have really low scores to see the highest scores of the previous floor. Why dont they make the ranking freely scroll-able...

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SwiftStepStompOP•

In the middle of the bell curve, that's more true. Competition tends to thin out as you push up though, and a lot of the scores I see are close to, if a little higher than mine. Last tower I could see +/- 2 floors in the top 50.

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TehPoots•

i'm at 105 kills...with the 1st place trophy staying just 5ish kills out of my grasp...if they'd just delete the hackers, i'm sure myself and a lot of others would be in the place we deserve...

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TheLordKimbo•

Got a message from the facebook site after I reported hackers in the top 9 of the battle tower below.

Thanks for your report.

The player profile/screenshots were saved and will be submitted to dev team today. We will seriously deal with all cheaters and ensure to build a fair gaming environment for all players.

Your support is really important to us! Thanks again! :)

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SwiftStepStompOP•

Good stuff!

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diclah•

Oh i just got a response from the FB page for a report with http://imgur.com/a/MN6DZ as evidence.

The player profile/screenshots were saved and will be submitted to dev team today. We will seriously deal with all cheaters and ensure to build a fair gaming environment for all players.

I hope they will ban a lot of them, maybe waited the last day to act.

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SwiftStepStompOP•

Thanks for the heads up on this! I was starting to get a little discouraged.

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The-Oppressed•

Did you also check their sub decks?

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TheRealC•

The point here isn't that the decks are suspect, but that they've gotten scores that are literally impossible to get. I choose to believe the 80 million one - should definitely be doable with a good Samurai build on a lower floor level - but 6 billion score is probably out.

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The-Oppressed•

Ah I see thanks!

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AllGamer•

just like those scores of 9999999999999999999 we've seen often.

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SwiftStepStompOP•

I always do.

Edit: and I'm quite disappointed that I feel that I have to. I have never seen this so rampant before.

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Arashmin•

Probably because most people can't 'legitimately' keep up in the tower now. When consumer confidence flags in a game is when you tend to see it weather more abuse like this.

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TheLordKimbo•

I have no idea the best channel to go through but I have been posting publicly on the facebook page and sent a few messages on the facebook directly to them..with no response though.

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Timezs•

Do you think mobius will remove the hackers before making the final ranking? in last towers they did insta ranking, so im not sure about that...

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SwiftStepStompOP•

They have before, but it'll be harder to find the less high-profile cheaters. I'm not sure how much they have in the way of resources to sift through everything.

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StickOnReddit•

Scores aren't always that great a way to know whether or not someone is hacking. You have to be fairly discerning; case in point a few months ago people thought that the Ult-focused Assassin high scores were cheating until they realized that they were farming Bombs for repeated Ult Break bonus to points -- you break a Bomb, then heal it with a like element, wash rinse repeat until the diminishing returns aren't worth it.

I mean, it is one potential indicator to cheating, but it isn't always the best one, which is probably why score isn't one of the first things people look at when it comes to tower

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SwiftStepStompOP•

Fair point. And yeah, I am trying to read between the lines. I do think it's a good tool, and I wanted to try discussing it to see what the community thought.

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AllGamer•

This is also probably why the SE team are hesitant to go on a ban spree, as they are also not sure until some one reports it for them.

Basically we are doing their homework.

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StickOnReddit•

Well, that's part of the reason they don't introduce sanity checks, right - a score in the 40 million range didn't pass common sense tests at first either. To continue the example from earlier those Assassin decks were using, like, Hecatoncheir and Brave and really non-obvious stuff. At the time people thought they were obviously hacking because everybody knew the only way to get high scores was to play a deck that could actually cast l'Cie Brand.

Even if the went whole-hog server-side validation, ultimately there would be suspect scores that would essentially require playbacks to verify, and really the payout for placing is just not significant enough to warrant that. People who cheat are getting peanuts as their reward, one wonders why bother in the first place

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Samfortalz•

Hackers everywhere and fanboys still defend this game. Lol

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budekj•

I got 145m score so you must be also reporting me.

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Fouace•

Funny considering usually you are the one who is reporting legit players.

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budekj•

isnt it weird that you are putting the same comment over and over again 3 months ago? is there anything new you can show or just keep reminding us how bitter and hurt you are with my comments?

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Fouace•

Hey mate, you were the one bitter then. I just found it funny you were so pissed at me because I was F2P and still doing better than you despite your whaling.

And now you're getting downvoted again because people are tired of your shit.

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