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Hybyscus

Well, that's it for me.

Experience

I've had a number of DMT experiences, none of which I would classify as breakthroughs. I did it quite a bit when I first got into it, felt burnt out and increasingly disappointed by it so I decided to shelve it for a while. It's been nearly two months since I last tried it.

The past couple days, I've thought about trying it again and got increasingly excited about diving back in. I haven't smoked weed for 3 weeks, so I was hopeful that my experience would be good like my first ones, when I was similarly on a break from weed.

Well, no luck. I took two hits from my bong, sandwiched between ash. I took my glasses off and closed my eyes. I began to breath deeply, though not particularly rapidly nor irregularly. I had some vague CEVs, nothing I was able to bring back or even take in in the moment.

Afterwards, about 10 minutes after smoking, I was mostly down. But my mood is also down now; before, I was having a nice day, nice vibes and all. Now I'm just unsure, disappointed, and lost.

DMT seems to just not be for me. I love shrooms and acid every now and then, and both of those leave me uplifted and cheerfully optimistic. Essentially the opposite of how I feel at the moment (30 minutes post smoking). People talk about how DMT is amazing. The only thing I'm amazed by is that I made it through the experience.

I guess I'm just venting. Is there anyone else out there who just didn't find what they were looking for, or expecting to find? I still have a significant amount left, so I could do it again, but fuck, I really don't think I ever want to go through it another time.

Posted Apr 13, 2017, 8:36 PM UTC

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MrR33ZGaming•

I think you should really try and breakthrough, it won't leave you dissapointed. Maybe change the way you vaporize it or the dose?

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HybyscusOP•

Given how intense my breathing becomes on a non-breakthrough dose, I fear that I would stop breathing completely if I broke through and left my body. I've tried the machine, but it becomes too difficult after the first hit or so and I tend to burn it. I figured the bong is easier to use and more efficient at delivering larger hits, which from what I've read is the best way to blast off.

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ChopSuey1996•

You will not stop breathing, your body knows how to not kill itself when it passes out. That's not an issue :)

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BrunoSardinePI•

The best way is keep going and hold it in as long as possible, hold it! thats where I failed my first couple attempts. It will deliver.

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MrR33ZGaming•

Hmm. I see what you're saying. You kinda have to remind yourself to breath sometimes, and sometimes it's nice to have someone to tap you on your shoulder and remind you too if you forget lol.

Have you tried doing it in like a vaporizer? I find it very easy to keep breathing when it comes to using that as I find the smokes a bit lighter. Or maybe try it through a dab rig? Low temperature and measure out your dose and pour it inside the bucket nail if you have one, that way it can deliver just the DMT smoke and not any wax or herb so it tends to be a smaller amount of smoke.

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HybyscusOP•

No, I see people speak highly of the Vapor Genie, but I can't justify spending that kind of money on something I care so little for. I do have a dab rig, so I suppose if I ever find the courage to do it again, I'll use that. The ash sandwich was my way of trying to minimize any extra smoke. My experiences smoking it with weed definitely made it much more difficult to hold in. Thanks for the advice!

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nateskate48•

The first time I tried DMT was in a dab rig, started with 15mg and then 20mg, and then broke through on 25mg. It may be different depending on the quality and how you "dab" it but it works really well, and much easier when it's all in one hit. I would fold a small piece of paper in half, put the DMT in the middle, and then slide it in the nail once it's at a good temperature. 25mg becomes quite the lungful but I have asthma so that may also be subjective.

Edit: also forgot to mention, if you want to ease your way into the trip you can try splitting it into 2 different hits, the first one will ease you in and the second one will make you blast off. Hope this helps!

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DontBanMeForAsking•

The first and only time I smoked DMT I held the hit in for a very long time. My friends said I went a few minutes without breathing. They tried to tell me to breathe, but, I was outside of my body at the time. So, it didn't even register as a thought. When I finally remembered to breathe I had to take a large amount of very panicked breaths because I had essentially almost knocked my self out from not breathing.

I also did not experience any contact with... well, anything. All I experienced is an extreme disconnection from reality. Followed by the sensation of being trapped for an eternity in a geometric pattern. After which I came down and was thankful to still be alive. Because I was so sure I had died or had permanently destroyed something inside my brain.

I too am questioning if I'd ever like to try it again. I'm afraid.

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OneNationAbove•

I experienced the same thing quite often, usually when I feel tired and smoke DMT it's possible I have no visuals at all, only a heavy body load, and after that I feel very confused and drained for the rest of the day, like I'm in zombie mode, everything becomes numb.

I can smoke up to 100mg and only have very faint visuals, or sometimes things speed up, everything becomes alien-like, but there's no defined visuals, just racing images.

After all this time, I think 9 or 10 years now I never had a real breakthrough, while others have them easily on way less DMT and with the exact same smoking method.I tried just about every possible method out there, except for harmalas, I should really get some extract.

It's very annoying.

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HybyscusOP•

Very interesting. What keeps you coming back to it?

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OneNationAbove•

It's off and on, in the beginning I really enjoyed it, even though the visuals were often pretty mild, I really liked the relaxed feeling I got afterwards, like I had a very long massage.

But at a certain moment the lethargic feeling started to occur, probably the same feeling you described, and I needed a long break, it happened more often than not.I think I stopped smoking for a year or so after that.

Now I still smoke once in a while, sometimes a few days in a row, and sometimes nothing for months, depending on how I feel, but only when I'm energetic, if I'm feeling drained and tired DMT does nothing for me, and I end up with that lethargic feeling.

I'm still hoping to break through I guess, I came close a few times, but never experienced one.

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marcthedrifter•

It sounds like you might want to try a different rig, or holding in the hits longer.

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HybyscusOP•

I've tried the machine and found it difficult once I begin lifting off. I'm holding the hits as long as I can, roughly 20 seconds per. Just curious, what difference do you think it would make?

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jfartster•

Oh, I definitely didn't find what I was expecting or what I really wanted to find. I can't say I remember any of the universal love stuff, (may have happened, and I was too overwhelmed). But it definitely didn't positively impact my mood. The experience tends to have a bit of a creepy, almost disturbing or even menacing vibe about it for me - but that's just part of the weirdness, as I see it. And all that goes away post-breakthrough as I recall.

I still think you should (maybe with better smoking technique? just a thought) try for a breakthrough if you feel the call again. It is an incredible experience. But also, the way people talk about dmt generally, doesn't exactly square up with my experiences of it, either. If smoking technique is an issue, fwiw, I never went in for this "three hits" stuff - I'm a gravity/bucket bong guy all the way. You've still gotta pull carefully, and maybe design a special bowl, but you can get your whole hit in one. ymmv though.

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DontBanMeForAsking•

I couldn't take three hits. One was enough to send me into another dimension for ten minutes.

When are you supposed to take the other two hits? After you come back? Do you blast off even further if you re-blast off right after blasting off? I don't get it either.

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smokinjoe65Wise Old Man•

The DMT isn't failing to live up to expectations, you're just not doing it right (no offense). It requires technique and mental preparation to get the full shebang. Right from the start most will tell you you're using a suboptimal ROI.

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HybyscusOP•

What's an optimal ROI then?

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smokinjoe65Wise Old Man•

Gvg, dab, oil burner, changa, etc.

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RealityIsPlastic•

You're disappointed because you've read and heard so much about DMT that you were expecting a guarantee breakthrough. I know that feeling, I've been there. Once I broke through, it's a different story. How was the setting of your trip, might I ask?

(Setting as in how exactly did you smoke it, where and with who, music or not)

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HybyscusOP•

I can understand that. I usually try to stay off of this sub for a bit leading up to smoking to minimize its influence, but I guess I've just done too much research overall.

I smoked it in bed in my room, seated with my back against my pillow and wall, eventually ending up laying on my back, with a light blanket over me. I didn't play music (though usually I do), but I had some ready if I felt I needed it.

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RealityIsPlastic•

Lay it off for awhile until you get curious again (or ready to do it again) dude. And perhaps next time turn on some nature sounds at low volume, take 3-4 hits rather than just 2. Do some fun activities on that day before you smoke, and probably try to avoid caffeine, alcohol and weed. Having a trip sitter might also help. Cheers.

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